• GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml
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      9 months ago

      Also not being run over by cars, and having the ability to walk/bike/take transit to get to places.

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        9 months ago

        Netherlands doesn’t represent the whole europe. This isn’t the cycling/public transport utopia you think it is.

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          9 months ago

          I’m well aware on account of living in non-Netherlands Europe.

          It’s a mixed bag for sure, but Europe as a whole does better on both the metrics I mentioned as compared to the U.S.

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            Exactly. Live in the U.S and just trying to look for a place that puts you in non-car distance to ANYTHING basically shows you one of two options:

            • Quaint small vacation towns that are expensive because they’re full of retirees. Won’t find great jobs or necessities there…
            • …Or giant, overcrowded, crazy metros like Chicago, NYC, San Francisco. . .which are also absurdly expensive, dangerous, and downright filthy.

            I feel like Europe at least gives you a way better chance of finding SOMEWHERE that works.

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            8 months ago

            "If the Americans could get a hold of the idea of not driving into each other they could also have roundabouts. "

            It’s less the idea of not driving into each other, and more the idea that nobody matters more than themselves, so everyone else should give way.

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          8 months ago

          While true compared to the USA almost every city in Europe is a bicycle dream.

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          8 months ago

          Maybe biking is an exception, but for public transportation and walking, it is absolutely true that pretty much all of Europe is much better. It’s not even close.