• madcaesar@lemmy.world
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    Nothing wrong at approaching somone you like, introducing yourself and asking them out.

    One tip… don’t use the words sexual harassment in the first sentance when meeting somone…

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      It’s not awesome to ask someone out when they’re working, but it’s not harassment unless it’s repeated.

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      Right, and while at work hahaha. Could you go up to anyone who looks less receptive? What is this comic, just ragebait?

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        Simply asking someone for their number is not harassment.

        Repeatedly asking for someone’s number after being told no is.

        There isn’t any nuance to this situation.

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          Telling someone they’re beautiful when they think you’re gross is creepy/harassment.

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            It’s okay to talk to women if you’re a male model but stay the fuck away if you aren’t. Got it.

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            “when they think you’re gross”

            How can I know if someone thinks I’m gross if I haven’t spoken to them yet? I should just assume I’m gross, always?

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              Usually when they get the torches out and organize the rest of the angry villagers I know that they don’t think highly of me.

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              That’s the fun part, you can’t. Don’t assume they think you’re gross, but do remember that you don’t know what they think.

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                  11 months ago

                  Or 3rd wave femanist. Hard to tell the difference sometimes 🤔

                  (For examples, head over to TwoXChromosones for nearly identical hot takes as the commenter above yours)

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                But if I tell them they’re beautiful and it turns out they think I’m gross I could go to prison for harassment! Am I really just supposed to roll the dice like that?

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                  Harassment isn’t a crime, so you’re probably safe from prison.

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            Correct, but you won’t know if they think you’re gross until you talk to them. If you see that they think you’re gross, you stop. It’s harassment when you see that they think you’re gross but continue talking to them anyway, because at that point you know they aren’t going to respond well to you, and you’re just continuing on to spite them.

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              I ponder if people are comfortable expressing to someone they just meet that they find them gross? Hmm

              My point is there often is nothing to see because that’s actively attempting to be hidden. Good normal decent people don’t like the feeling of giving people bad news already but when it’s bad news about something so personal and also recognizing that not everyone gets dealt the best hand in life?

              It’s insane to put the entirety of responsibility to “read the room” on one person even if they are the initiator.

              This is where social contract comes in. We all need a new modern social contract we can agree on to help us remove these barriers of interaction.

              But i guess that’s the point of these types of works is to bring attention to that situation. It’s a valid observation i think, commentary on it aside for now

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                Well, if you’re actively trying to hide your disgust from someone, it’s because you don’t want them to know, at which point you obviously can’t expect them to react to it. Ultimately, it’s not about you trying to divine someone’s real feelings, instead it’s about reacting to what they do show you. It’s the responsibility of everyone who interacts with others in a public space to be knowledgeable about both verbal and nonverbal cues that someone’s not interested, so that they can display and/or recognize them as required.

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                  As far as i can tell we said the same thing. I will admit i have a hard time figuring our how to explain what im thinking so im not attempting to blame anyone here

                  It’s the responsibility of everyone who interacts with others in a public space to be knowledgeable about both verbal and nonverbal cues that someone’s not interested, so that they can display and/or recognize them as required.

                  This is part of what i envision a new modern social contract would take care of

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        I hope you just have a feminine sounding name and you’re not a real life woman with this opinion.

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            Garbage is definitely masculine and bagel is pretty neutral and taking into account everyone online is a guy, definitely a guy.

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              No, no, no. See, your typical garbage bag has some smush to it, and a bagel has a hole! If we put these facts together, we can surmise that OP 3.0 is actually an earthworm with one of its ends sewed shut!

              …I don’t know anything about an earthworm’s sex, so I’m going to go with it being a neutral.

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        No, it isn’t.

        If there was a frame of her saying no, but then he doesn’t leave her alone, then sure.

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            Depends on how you do it. The way it’s portrayed here is weird, because they use the “is it sexual harassment…” phrase and kinda belittle the problem of sexual harassment within society. Makes me think he’s an avid Andrew Tate fanboy. So it’d be an instant “thx goodbye” from me.

            But if you just take the rest… I don’t think it’s harassment if you drop an honest compliment and ask for someone’s number.

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            11 months ago

            Although the officer is “working” they are in public

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        https://www.eeoc.gov/sexual-harassment

        Although the law doesn’t prohibit simple teasing, offhand comments, or isolated incidents that are not very serious, harassment is illegal when it is so frequent or severe that it creates a hostile or offensive work environment or when it results in an adverse employment decision (such as the victim being fired or demoted).

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    Probably the most pathetic cartoon I’ve ever been shown. Author needs real world experiences.

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      Yeah, it seems as if it was created by a “nice guy” incel. I don’t get it.

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        Did not get that impression at all. To me it seems like basically the same thing as the “What have you done, Billy?” and “dumbest man alive” memes. Something relatably annoying followed by a hyperbolic “haha if only” response.

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        Harassment is continuing once being told “no.” There are a few frames missing from that comic for it to count as harassment.

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        It would seem the author is conflating sexual harassment with random flirting with women. It also sends the message that the author thinks it should be okay to flirt with random women as they go about their day/job, which is inappropriate, creepy, and annoying. He should probably try treating women like humans and develop a healthier sense of boundaries. He might have better luck.

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        Don’t flirt with people when they’re working. It’s gross and predatory because they’re basically a captive audience.

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    Unless I’m missing an entire frame, this seems extremely unreasonable, likely illegal, even if that guy is a douche.

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    I mean… maybe don’t get 2.5 inches away from her face while rubbing your chest up against her shoulder?

    Probably best not to club her on the head and drag her back to your cave either - at least, not without prior consent :-P.

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    I smiled at her by the photocopier. Now I’m facing chemical castration.

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    Guys… its a fuckin joke… you’re reading into this comic too much

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      Except it’s becoming what a lot of people want. Jokes that hit too close to the sad truth aren’t funny, or interesting, or anything.

      See? Right in these fucking comments. LMAO!

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        Again, the strip is a joke, and you and the person you are screen capping are taking it too seriously. Buddy hits on a cop terribly, buddy ends up in jail… thats the joke

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      Telling her she’s beautiful and asking for her phone number once is not sexual harassment. Continuing to do so after she has made it clear she isn’t interested is.

      However, it does look like he’s either looming over her or about to put his arm around her. That’s definitely not ok.

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        He is standing side-on to the officer, one hand presumably resting against some surface (a wall) and the other hand on his hip.

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          And is pretty uncomfortably close, for an initial unsolicited introduction

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          If you think that combination of body language and proximity is acceptable when speaking to someone for the first time you’re mistaken. It comes across as Intimidating. Respect people’s personal space.

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      there might be a case if you could convince a court that by stating “is it X if I…” you are aware that the actions could potentially construe X.

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      Technically, no. However, when an officer is at their post in uniform, interfering with their work is a punishable offence.

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      The last two people who said no got downvoted to the negatives so I’ll say maybe and see if I can stay at 0.

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        I don’t seem to see that panel. I only see the one where he got instantly angry and called her names.

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          Actually it’s missing a lot of panels. She is interested and they date for 3 years before getting married. But then things turn sour after 4 more years, 2 kids, and both of them falling out of love, and she made up stories so that her colleagues ended up arresting him to gain an advantage in the custody battle. You can tell this from the way he’s holding his head in the last panel.