• Arete@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    20
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    9 months ago

    Hamas will never accept a ceasefire without full Israeli withdrawal, and Israel will never accept a ceasefire that leaves Hamas in power. There is no middle ground here acceptable to both sides. It’s not going to happen until the situation substantially changes.

    • Cinner@lemmy.worldB
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      9 months ago

      You do understand a ceasefire is temporary? It’s not an end. It’s temporary peaceful time so the starving can be fed and the wounded cared for.

      • Arete@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        9 months ago

        I do, but in the few last rounds of talks Hamas has consistently demanded full Israeli withdrawal as a condition to release any hostages, and a permanent peace prior to releasing all hostages.

        Since Israel is obviously not going to agree to withdraw leaving Hamas to reassert full control, and further would never make a peace treaty with a terrorist organization holding their citizens hostage, I don’t see any path forward here.

      • PoastRotato@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        22
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        9 months ago

        “This thing seems to be true.”

        “Actually, this thing doesn’t seem to be true, and here’s why.”

        “So you don’t want this thing to be true, then??”

        Maybe now you can see how ridiculous you sound here.

      • Arete@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        20
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        9 months ago

        I didn’t state any opinion at all. I only discussed what seems politically possible right now.

        • Philo@discuss.onlineOP
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          28
          ·
          9 months ago

          The article says they are making headway, which contradicts your post outright.

          • Arete@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            16
            arrow-down
            2
            ·
            9 months ago

            … I’m stating my reasoning for disagreeing with the article. What I wrote is my opinion, which isn’t something an article can contradict.

              • Arete@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                12
                arrow-down
                2
                ·
                9 months ago

                Ok so that was where you should have picked a step in my reasoning that you disagree with and explained why.

                • Philo@discuss.onlineOP
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  2
                  arrow-down
                  28
                  ·
                  9 months ago

                  No , that is in a debate and that is if you used reason. There have been other ceasefires between Hamas and Israel. No reply is necessary.