Several NATO members accuse Moscow of deliberately jamming positioning signals
GPS is no longer reliable around the Baltic Sea and northern Norway. Interference in the Global Positioning System (GPS), which has affected all NATO members bordering Russia for two years, has worsened in recent months. Alternative systems to GPS have had to be activated on tens of thousands of flights and the main Finnish airline has suspended one of its routes due to the problem, which is also disrupting maritime navigation. Several of the affected countries accuse Moscow of intentionally jamming signals with its electronic warfare systems.
Since the Russian invasion of Ukraine in February 2022, GPS interference has been recurring in Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania. These types of disruptions are common in and around conflict zones. Even so, in the last half year, the airspace of the three Baltic countries — in addition to that of Finland, Sweden and Poland — has been much more affected than at the beginning of the war. What’s more, thousands of ships have been navigating the Baltic without GPS since December, when the Russian army’s electronic warfare began in the Kaliningrad enclave. And in remote northeastern Norway, near Russia’s Northern Fleet base — which has eight of the 11 Russian submarines capable of launching long-range nuclear missiles — outages are almost daily.
The craziest part is that the facility believed to be the source of the jamming is estimated at only $6.7m to make.
https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1786018979125117136?s=46&t=GIZGEZdJrgoqjJGiP2Da7w
It’s just a big antenna. If you can broadcast a large signal on all the same frequencies you can drown out the other signals. It takes lots of power. More targeted approaches can make it more efficient, that probably where most of the money went.
Igor Shushko should not be trusted for OSINT. He has claimed repeatedly that the FSB was going to stage a coup, etc. since the beginning of the invasion. He also just makes stuff up pretty frequently.
He’s in the “completely ignore” category in the OSINT community.
They say I can download the PDF.
maybe I’m too blind or stupid for X/Twitter, but I at least can’t download/see it on mobile.Anyone having said PDF to actually see the details?
Without a twitter account you can’t expand the thread, and not having a twitter account means I have no idea if there is a PDF in there or not. Nothing like using a walled garden platform to literally hide information behind Musk’s paywall.
EDIT: I managed to find them elsewhere and put them somewhere easier to access:
Thank you very very much!
And fuck X
We have to pay to have an account on X now?
Well, you are agreeing to have your data sold, so in that sense, yes
Imagine that kinda sucks for a pilot. A ship is at least moving fairly slowly, so you have time and plenty of space to do your charting the old fashioned way. Might even be kinda fun for the first few times, a chance to actually use that skill for once. A plane would have a tougher time of it, unless it has some inertial navigating system or something.
Lots of lighthouses don’t operate anymore. Ships crashing into thing in the night was a big problem before GPS.
There are other navigation methods, radio towers etc. But GPS is a reliable works everywhere system, outside of malicious actors.
That’s a good point, we have very few active lighthouses in the US anymore.
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Somewhere, Gul Dukat is silently crying.
unless it has some inertial navigating system or something.
Don’t all commercial planes have this?
There are other ways to navigate and fly other than gps and it’s basically just as easy to do. It’s just not quite as accurate and relies on stations on the ground which have been decommissioned over the years as gps has become more prevalent. VOR to VOR flying airways and then using ILS type approaches as an example.
VOR
Thinking about it: This can also be manipulated by an enemy on the ground…
Well they are all radio signals even the ILS and localizers. In the US our 5G network interferes with radio altimeters. A person at home can spoof airplane traffic that would show up in cockpits. Bad actors could cause havoc anywhere.
Would air traffic controllers be able to guide them via radar?
They could but you wouldn’t want to do that for all planes. Planes follow standard departure and approach paths so the controllers know where everyone is and should be going. Moving a few planes around no biggie but if you’re doing radar vectors for everyone that will slow things down dramatically.
That makes sense. I was thinking more about emergencies because it says outages are almost daily, which means not consistent.
They do, but compounding errors are always a problem with inertial navigation.
Instead of GPS, they can use fixed radio beacons like VOR and TACAN (which I think are both just US systems, but there are similar systems around the world and at major airports). This is basically the system that was in use before GPS.
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VOR is international, my local airport has one. TACAN is military only (though some can be used as a VOR by civilian aircraft), also international, and by the way originally British as per Wikipedia.
I understood everything in your comment! All those years playing FSX instead of going to school finally paid off!
I am not a pilot or aviation watcher, so I don’t know. Makes sense.
I mean… It’s obviously electronic warfare from Russia.
There isn’t a need to “accuse” and nobody will listen to a denial.
This is just deliberate communication disruption, and prequel memes aside, we all know what disrupted communications leads to.
And they started with Ukraine, thinking it an easy target.
When I read an article the other day about laser point-to-point communication with a sattelite , I immediately thought to myself “oh this probably isn’t good, widespread sattelite communication disruption is about to be put to widespread use, why else would this be necessary when current systems have much higher bandwidth” and you know if you’re reading a news article about it, it’s been put to use by the DOD for years.
Am I sounding like a conspiracy theorist? Genuine question, because that seems reasonable in the modern world to me.
