To all those people who keep saying that in order to not have Trump back in 2025, everyone must suck it up and vote Biden, this is why that just can’t happen.
Sure Trump is bad in many ways but Biden’s insistence on helping Netenyahu no matter what will lose him the election.
I’m not making a case for Trump, btw. Both things can be bad at the same time. For people who are seeing Gazans die for no reason, Biden cannot come back into office again. Does that mean we want Trump? Of course not, and that’s why voting for anyone else makes sense.
If voting for anyone else means you’re voting for Trump, so be it!
People who get anxious at criticism of Biden should dedicate their energy to pressure the US government to grow some brain cells and stop behaving like lunatics, not at berating everyone who expresses angst at their complicity with genocide.
Democratic governments aren’t some force of nature that will do as they please no matter the consequences. You, as their constituents, can signal to them that their actions may make them lose the next election. If you want young people to vote for Biden, what’s more likely to do the trick, to endlessly argue with the few of them you’ll find on Lemmy, or to have Biden stop ruining his own image for no gain?
Voting for a third party, especially if you are in a key swing state, is a bad idea. If you are a
registered democrat you’ll have to vote democrat to keep Biden.
Do you think people love their candidates? They are voting for lesser of the 2 evils. If you vote 3rd party if you just wasting your vote, so you could at least try to stop the other from winning. It’s basically what people are doing.
That’s just not true. You do not have to vote with your party, you do not have to vote for every position on the ballot, and you do not have to vote at all if you do not want to.
Yeah if people are angry at Biden for this shit, they’ll for sure be angry with trump because he wants them all killed too along with a litany of other shit that is clearly bad for America and the rest of the world. Voting for trump because you’re mad at Biden’s actions is like chopping your whole arm off because a finger got infected.
Not how US Elections work. Only the winner writes the laws, if you want election reform then vote Dem. If you want Trump, don’t vote dem. Those are the only two options, voting third party does nothing to help. The cumulative sum of all EC Votes given to third party candidates in the USA for 47 years is 0, and we’re risking a lot by not firmly establishing DNC leadership as the lesser evil.
No. Biden must be worthy of the office on his own merits. Or else this voting thing is useless. the people cannot hold their officials accountable if they must vote for them. That’s just an oligarchy with extra steps.
No. You have a responsibility to help the people that you can. Doing nothing while a worse person takes office is the same as you advocating for harm, directly.
To all those people who keep saying that in order to not have Trump back in 2025, everyone must suck it up and vote Biden, this is why that just can’t happen.
Sure Trump is bad in many ways but Biden’s insistence on helping Netenyahu no matter what will lose him the election.
I’m not making a case for Trump, btw. Both things can be bad at the same time. For people who are seeing Gazans die for no reason, Biden cannot come back into office again. Does that mean we want Trump? Of course not, and that’s why voting for anyone else makes sense.
If voting for anyone else means you’re voting for Trump, so be it!
People who get anxious at criticism of Biden should dedicate their energy to pressure the US government to grow some brain cells and stop behaving like lunatics, not at berating everyone who expresses angst at their complicity with genocide.
Democratic governments aren’t some force of nature that will do as they please no matter the consequences. You, as their constituents, can signal to them that their actions may make them lose the next election. If you want young people to vote for Biden, what’s more likely to do the trick, to endlessly argue with the few of them you’ll find on Lemmy, or to have Biden stop ruining his own image for no gain?
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Voting for a third party, especially if you are in a key swing state, is a bad idea. If you are a registered democrat you’ll have to vote democrat to keep Biden.
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Do you think people love their candidates? They are voting for lesser of the 2 evils. If you vote 3rd party if you just wasting your vote, so you could at least try to stop the other from winning. It’s basically what people are doing.
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Well, that’s your opinion and you are entitled to believe in it.
That’s just not true. You do not have to vote with your party, you do not have to vote for every position on the ballot, and you do not have to vote at all if you do not want to.
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Yeah if people are angry at Biden for this shit, they’ll for sure be angry with trump because he wants them all killed too along with a litany of other shit that is clearly bad for America and the rest of the world. Voting for trump because you’re mad at Biden’s actions is like chopping your whole arm off because a finger got infected.
Not how US Elections work. Only the winner writes the laws, if you want election reform then vote Dem. If you want Trump, don’t vote dem. Those are the only two options, voting third party does nothing to help. The cumulative sum of all EC Votes given to third party candidates in the USA for 47 years is 0, and we’re risking a lot by not firmly establishing DNC leadership as the lesser evil.
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Is this a troll comment or do you actually believe this shit? “Double Genocide?”
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Got it, you’re a troll.
No. Biden must be worthy of the office on his own merits. Or else this voting thing is useless. the people cannot hold their officials accountable if they must vote for them. That’s just an oligarchy with extra steps.
No. You have a responsibility to help the people that you can. Doing nothing while a worse person takes office is the same as you advocating for harm, directly.
And we can help people by pressuring Biden.
Trump is leading in the majority of polls, you’re not going to be able to pressure anybody when he wins.
That’s irrelevant. Trump is not the President. Pressuring him will do us no good.
Lmao, feigning ignorance of a US Election in a comment thread that literally started by talking about the US Election.
So who’s worthy of the office that has a chance to win in November then?
Let’s see you name someone.
It’s easy to suggest people not vote- but let’s see you offer up a candidate in Biden’s stead since you hate him so much.
It’s entirely possible to leave the field blank.
Nope. Name someone. Because leaving the field blank doesn’t negate an election. Someone is still going to be president.
Name someone.
Mr. Blank Field
So there it is. You cannot answer a simple question to support your entire ideology.
Just:
“biDeN bAD!” … but no alternative suggestions. Which clearly shows you are here in to disrupt.
“Just don’t vote”
“Idk, sounds kind of fascist to me, bro”
How the fuck is it fascism to use a feature of a democracy? You’ve gone completely off the cliff.
The part where Representative Democracy involves Voting to elect a leader, not just voting as a symbolic gesture.
Trump will be actively worse than Biden because he would bring the worst Israeli policies HERE.
Illegal invasion of Lebanon? Yeah, Trump wants that for Mexico.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/donald-trump-mexico-military-cartels-war-on-drugs-1234705804/
So, yeah, that’s what you’re voting for if you don’t vote Biden.