• AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    What’s Opera based on? My friends mostly use Mac, so they all use Opera and Chrome, but I have gotten them to stop using Chrome.

      • Possibly linux@lemmy.zip
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        1 year ago

        So? It isn’t google. Also google and Mozilla have Asian employees so I guess you’ll have to be not racist.

        I do agree that the Chinese government is problematic though.

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          1 year ago

          I’d like to point out that they said nothing about it being a bad thing and that all they did was say it was Chinese-owned, hence making your comment a pointless attack of nonsense.

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            I’d like to point out that they said nothing about it being a bad thing

            I think it’s pretty clear that that’s exactly what they were implying. What is it that you think they meant by that?

            And I agree with them. I also agree that it’s not racist but anything Chinese is pretty much defacto-owned and operated by the CCP.

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              I personally thought they were implying that China could be a privacy concern, as you don’t have a single clue what happens with your data there. There’s zero reason to assume anything bad especially with a simple statement like that.

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                I personally thought they were implying that China could be a privacy concern

                …and this is a good thing?

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                  1 year ago

                  If you leave out the rest of what I said sure? I don’t actually know what you’re asking.

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                    I left it out because its not important. You said they didn’t say anything bad and then said you thought they were saying it compromises your privacy. Maybe you don’t care about privacy but I think most people would consider invading your privacy very much “a bad thing”.

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          It uses Chromium as its base, so is essentially Chrome with fancy things attached to it. It uses Blink, Chrome/Chromium’s rendering engine.

          We need fewer Chromium-based browsers out there. The greater marketshare they have, the easier it will be for Google to push W3C and everyone else around to conform to their desired business model.

          For example, when Google inevitably pushes WEI into Chrome, WebKit and Gecko (Safari-based and Firefox-based browsers) won’t be affected at all.

          If, however, 90% of all users end up on Blink (whether it’s Chrome, Opera, Vivaldi, Edge, Brave, or whatever) then Google can do whatever they want to the web.

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      Opera was bought by a Chinese data analytics company, and once that happened, they scrapped their engine and used chromium to save money.

      They have questionable CCP ties too.

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          1 year ago

          Maybe use that information to try and influence the public in the same way that cambridge analytica did for the 2016 elections.

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          lol. This thread is about people mad that google is doing it, and you’re saying so what if a nation state does it?

          The answer is the same either way - to either sell the data to a party who want to manipulate you into doing or thinking what they want or by directly manipulating you into doing or thinking what they want.

          Same with Reddit and lemmy. It doesn’t take a whole lot of investment (on a state level actor basis) to manipulate small and large communities or individuals into thinking something is normal or mainstream. Or convincing them that everyone loves this product or it’s so popular or whatever.

          The CCP censors their entire internet for their people and collects all sorts of information to root out dissidents. What good thing do you think is going to come from them having that data?