• Flying Squid@lemmy.worldOPM
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    4 months ago

    This article?

    The protests came as the White House said that national security adviser Jake Sullivan held a virtual meeting with families of U.S. hostages held by Hamas in Gaza and ahead of Israeli labor union Histadrut calling a general strike for Monday to protest the Netanyahu government and demand an immediate hostage-release and ceasefire deal.

    I read it.

    Why are you gaslighting?

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      The trigger for the protests and ceasefire demands was for the rescue hostages, not the end of the ongoing genocide.

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        Yes, I know what triggered them. What do you think they want Netanyahu to do? Kill even more Palestinians? Is that what you think they’re calling for here? Bomb harder?

        Because they’re literally calling for the opposite. Isn’t that a good thing?

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          There’s no doubt that a good chunk of the population does want Netanyahu to kill even more Palestinians. These people didn’t start protesting over their actions against the Palestinians. So once they have the hostages it’s a safe assumption that they will stop protrsting and demanding a ceasefire.

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              If what you’re saying is true then there would have been protests of this magnitude the moment the news started coming out about what the IDF is doing.

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                Sorry… you’re saying it is true that Israel is a hive mind and there is 100% agreement on the genocide in Palestine or else just as many people would have protested at the beginning?

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                  I’m saying a significant portion of the Israelis would have been protesting from the beginning if they cared about the Palestinians.

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                    Okay, but no one said that a significant portion of Israelis were against it. This is what you said:

                    So once they have the hostages it’s a safe assumption that they will stop protrsting and demanding a ceasefire.

                    That is only true if every single person protesting feels that way. And that would only be true if they were a hive mind.

                    Some Israelis have been protesting since the beginning of the war. Yes, they are not huge in number, but they exist. Were you even aware of that?

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        Let me get this straight…

        Are you really claiming that the entire population of Israel- all 9.5 million people- share exactly the same opinion on Palestine?

        Because that would be incredibly fucking bigoted of you, so I want to make sure that’s what you’re saying.

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            How many people have you actually heard from? Let’s say percentagewise- what percentage of the 9.5 million Israelis have you heard from to determine that there is no dissent?

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                I can acknowledge that many of the protesters are not about stopping that. I cannot acknowledge that there is no one there protesting genocide. I would like to see evidence to that effect. If they are anything like the many anti-war protests I have attended, there is a wide range of opinions amongst the protesters beyond “end the war.”

                I have not talked to the thousands of people protesting. I do not know what they all think. Or even what most of them think.

                Now, please tell me what percentage of the 9.5 million Israelis you have heard from to determine that there is no dissent inside Israel.

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                    I have asked you a question twice now. You said you would answer it. You did not.

                    But the protestors are being clear about what they are protesting about.

                    Let’s reduce my question to just the people protesting: out of the thousands, what percentage of them have you actually heard from about why they are protesting?