• theherk@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Stopped innovating? Just because the user interface didn’t change much? They’ve contributed a ton to web api’s and the open web in general. They also contributed massively to rust, and private / secure browsing standards. It has absolutely not been left to languish. Now I prefer some other UI’s but you won’t catch me claiming Mozilla ceased innovation.

    They’ve also contributed in general to JavaScript. So yeah, Google definitely pushed the envelope there, but Mozilla didn’t just watch it all happen. Also, factor in that they were key contributors to web assembly.

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      2 months ago

      Yes they contributed a lot to web standards, bit they didn’t contribute to actual user experience which is why people install a web browser in the first place.

      Mozilla consistently gets complacent.

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        2 months ago

        That seems paradoxical to me. Maybe you mean user interface, but those standards are a massive part of experience. How media loads, caches, and renders. How cross site resources work. How DNS works. Etc. And just think of all their massive contributions to CSS and animations. I mean they play a pretty big part in user experience.

        Not to mention MDN, for which many of us can be thankful alone.

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          I think what the commenter is saying is that’s great but where was that in their own browser at the time? Google was kicking ass moving browsers forward it’s great Mozilla contributed the scenes but why not take that and at least have made it work in their own browser.

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          I think the point is that the average web user doesn’t even know about things like caching, rendering, CSS, DNS, etc., let alone care. It’s awesome that Mozilla contributes to those things, but for 95% of the user base, unless it makes itself readily apparent in the browser itself, it might as well not exist to them.

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      2 months ago

      Ok. Now pretend you’re me, a normal person who doesn’t even know what Rust is.

      How has Firefox improved for me? The browser is clearly an inferior product.