How is the idea that two evils can fight each other so hard to understand? Not all fights are between a good and a evil.
Seriously. There are also people on Lemmy that think anyone who has sympathy for civilians also support terrorists.
How absolutely fucking brain-dead do you have to be to not understand that killing civilians is wrong? You can hate the rulers of Israel, Hamas, and Hezbollah while simultaneously hoping that Israeli, Palestinian, and Lebanese civilians don’t get hurt.
This isn’t rocket science.
Hate the Nazis, not the Germans
Hate the Kremlin, not the Russians.
only some civilians. say you don’t agree with random rockets being launched into Israel makes you a Zionist genocide supporter according so so many hateful people here
Emotions run high. Makes it difficult to see the bigger picture.
It doesn’t help that they have the emotional maturity of toddlers
Also the intellectual maturity.
You’ve got to wonder how much of it is genuine and how much is some in a third world country being paid by putin/xi to spread propaganda on social media
No, you really don’t have to wonder that. Not when you meet plenty of real people with those real opinions. I think questioning the humanity of those who we interact with is far more destructive. It’s often the conspiracy minded Lemmygrad users who share spaces with real people who disagree with them, and instead of managing the cognitive dissonance they just accuse them of being a bot. Everyone who disagrees with me is fake!
Please refer to the rules, particularly revision
Yeah and they also forget that something evil can have elements or components that arent evil. You wont kill every employee of a company because the ceo is evil. You wont kill every palestanian or israeli because the IDF and hamas are terrorist organizations.
You simply side with the weaker side. Losing is a sign of virtue. /s
That explains why they are fans of Russia as well.
I think it is difficult for children to understand nuance like that. Aren’t cartoons always very obvious about who is in the right?
Reality is a team sport, to some people. The conservative worldview is defined by interpersonal loyalty. There is some rightful order to things, and it’s your job to justify and promote that, by stringing together argument-shaped sentences. They think that’s all anyone’s doing.
And yes, I would call tankies conservatives. The word doesn’t refer to right-wing policies. It means “well somebody’s gotta be king.” They use leftist language, and absorb some leftist motivation, but any of it and all of it will go out the window for the social game of maintaining loyalty.
It is fights between arbitrary stance with no factual evidence and arbitrary stance with no factual evidence.
Actually it sounds a lot like a holly war
“America bad therefore all adversaries are good and all adversaries’ actions are good.”
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You obviously never accidentally entered a .ml thread and said something completely innocent.
Do it
NOW
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For opensource communities (the one topic their communities are usually quite popular)
Thankfully now that there are lots of viable alternatives. Plenty of those communities are moving or winding down. I would like to see more do what the KDE devs did. And have their own official communities whenever possible. Of course Mozilla only tried Mastodon but took theirs down already
I would like to see more do what the KDE devs did. A
They have their own instance: https://lemmy.kde.social/
Aye that was the next part of the bit you quoted that I mentioned that. And I am definitely subscribed to it.
It just makes far more sense for open Source projects. Than associating themselves so closely with toxic political ideologies like capitalism or leninism.
Ah indeed, sorry misread your comment
That plus hex and lemigrad. It just cleans your feed.
How do i block .ml?
Thanks!
“Does not make you an hero”
Id hope not
You never know in tankie land. They see Stalin as the great liberator
The thing that makes you a hero is killing a terrorist.
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There is a pretty clear definition of terrorism and when you think actual genocidal islamists arent terrorist “because they fight the status quo and nothing else” you might need to find yourself in prison for terrorism support.
That is a matter of perspective.
If someone kills the leader of a genocidal country, they are a hero to the genocided and a terrorist to the genocidal country. The leader of a genocidal country is a terrorist to the genocided and a hero to the genocidal country.
You’re oversimplifying something to make your own point appear valid when it isn’t.
Well one of the mods over there is a clearly pro-Russian account.
I’ve been banned from that community (and all others on Lemmy.ml he is a mod on) several times by this account: davel@lemmy.ml
https://reddit.moonbeam.town/u/davel@lemmy.ml
He absolutely refuses to answer the question “are you pro-Russian” while fiercely touting Russian propaganda, saying Russian propaganda doesn’t exist at all, denying Uighur genocide, advocating against Ukraine, all that jazz.
Ten bucks says he comes here whining about stalking again while refusing to answer if he supports Putler or not.
Tankies will never, ever wander outside of their safe spaces. Despite them being able to talk here, none do it, mainly because then they’d have their bigotry and extremism challenged.
True enough.
let’s see if we can’t ping him here though @davel@lemmy.ml idk how the pings work on Lemmy if the last didn’t ping him lol
He’ll never come here
I bet he reads it though.
No doubt there’s russia government propaganda out there but advocating against the ukrainian authoritarian government is not automatically “enemy” propaganda
Advocating against Ukraine in the context of the Russo-Ukrainian war, by spreading pretty much verbatim what Russian state news is touting.
Can we get something more exciting than getting banned on Lemmy.ml for perfectly fine speech?
I got banned from the world news community on lemmy.world because I respectfully and politely disagreed with a moderator. https://lemmy.world/comment/12426224
That’s about right for flyingsquid. Seems like a nice bloke but has repeatedly shown he doesn’t have the impartiality required to be a moderator.
I don’t think he is nice, I think he acts like a mall cop on an ego trip. I had to block him
He’s nice when you agree and most his opinions are decent so you tend to agree a lot. But he tends to start acting weird/hostile when you have a disagreement.
I really appreciate his contributions to lemmy while thinking maybe he isn’t the best person to moderate a political community.
We have different opinions on what nice is. Personally I feel if someone’s only nice when you agree with them. That’s not nice
Semi-related, but how do you feel about my moderation? Being impartial is sometimes quite difficult
I’ll chime in here
I think you do a decent job. If there is one thing this community has shown its that we could do worse. Keep up the good work
You didn’t politely disagree. He asked a direct question to which you earlier said to know the answer to.
What you kept repeating was not an answer to said question, and then you started playing stupid games against someone who’s shown time again to have no patience for them.
Imagine you are an expert in software engineering, and imagine I asked you, “How do you build an app?” How would you directly answer that question?
Moreover, if it was obvious to you that the person wasn’t really interested in how to build apps, but they actually doubt it’s possible to build apps at all and they just want to waste your time arguing with you would never get your app approved on the App Store or something like that, how much detail would you be willing to go into about how to build apps? Would you take them through the whole process, start to finish? Would you point them towards resources they could use to learn how to build an app?
I answered the question quite extensively, with explanations and caveats. It should be very clear that while he (and you) may disagree with me, I am not making these arguments in bad faith, I’m not trolling, and I’m not being particularly rude or breaking any rules.
I’m definitely not playing any “games”, I’m just explaining my position the best way I can, but I’m also not trying to waste my time arguing with people who have zero genuine interest in taking what I say seriously.
What’s the exact text of that respectful and polite deleted message?
It was a message I accidentally submitted before I had finished writing, then deleted so that I could continue to write it, but by the time I finished it, I was already banned. It was something along the lines of “I don’t really think you’re arguing in good faith here, because as you said, you “knew” before even starting this conversation that I wouldn’t have any practical ideas”, or something along those lines. If there’s any way to un-delete it I’d be happy to do that, if you know how I can? Or somehow recover the original text?
Edit: Never mind, figured out how to undelete it. Original comment is restored. I accidentally submitted just that fragment instead of a longer message I had intended on replying with.
You got banned, logged into an alt, said the same thing, got banned again…
And you were so surprised you had to make a post about it?
No idea who they are, we got banned at the same time. You can see the conversation in the original post
You read a post title, clicked the link and scrolled ALLLLLL the way down to comment this?
And you’re here trying to shame this other person for talking about getting banned?
Lmao, typical tankie with the .world sock puppet account.
I can’t believe this is a community lmao. Libs are so weird.
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*how authoritarian
Murder fantasies are much weirder.
