cross-posted from: https://lemmy.crimedad.work/post/138601

“That son of a bitch, Bibi Netanyahu, he’s a bad guy,” said Biden privately, according to Woodward. “He’s a bad fucking guy!”

Reads like a bloody Onion article.

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    2 months ago

    You entirely missed the point of everything I’ve said- whether it be on purpose or not, I’m done trying to explain this shit. It’s a pointless exercise in futility to even try and have a nuanced discussion here.

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      2 months ago

      You haven’t really said anything though. You just keep claiming “it’s complicated bro”. How? We’re reasonable people here, for the most part. If you can explain why it’s not simple, people might listen.

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        2 months ago

        I’ve explained it already throughout this entire thread.

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          No, you haven’t. You’ve repeatedly claimed that experts think pulling out of a 20 year conflict is complicated*, but haven’t provided the slightest insight into how that might be. In fact, you’ve admitted that you don’t know. If you put 1/10th as much effort into researching this instead of just making 20 appeals to authority and saying we can’t hope to understand it, you would know what’s complicated about it.

          * and I’m not saying it’s not complicated. But making 20 posts to this effect with no further substance has no value.

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            It’s a lot easier to copy and paste a single response to each of you than to custom tailor it every time one of you respond. Especially since it’s the same argument over and over.

            What do you think happens when America stops supplying Israel? Think they’ll just stop attacking Palestine?? They’ve already said that don’t really need America chipping in. And they don’t. So… when America just- stops sending them arms, the next bidder steps in. That’s what happens.

            And that’s going to be either China or Russia.

            And they wont have any restrictions like America does. (And before you say “what restrictions” I’d urge you to try and understand what’s involved in the pact). Russia and or China will absolutely allow them to decimate Palestine. And even help if necessary.

            And if America doesn’t end up going to war with them over this, guess, who they’re all most likely turning their sights on once Palestine becomes a gravel pit?

            This is just ONE example.

            There are MANY others. Pay attention when the experts on the sublet discuss this. You’ll learn something just as I did.

            And lastly…. What could be done, at best, is America might be able to leverage additional conditions. And if you’ve been paying attention- they’ve been trying to do just that this entire time.

            Again- nuance. Understand it.

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              2 months ago

              Again- nuance. Understand it.

              I do, don’t be smug. Come on now.

              Anyways, thank you for providing concrete reasoning, maybe you’ll have convinced some more people now.

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                Because I don’t think I need to be the one to educate people here. I went and found this information because I was interested in knowing it. People here just want to be outraged and anger about everthing. They get to say

                “It’s so easy!”

                And no one challenges them to illustrate why. But when someone says-

                “No, it isn’t.”

                The demands to explain are tenfold. So forgive me for asking that people do the work.

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                  2 months ago

                  People here just want to be outraged and anger about everthing

                  I find this quite ironic considering your previous posts.

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                    2 months ago

                    You’re free to find irony in whatever makes you happy.