• PugJesus@lemmy.world
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    26 days ago

    Letting fascists win and still finding a way to put the REAL blame on the LIBS.

    Just absolutely astounding.

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      26 days ago

      Libs are not the left. They’re just barely left of the GOP.

      Everything looks hard right to my tired eyes.

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        26 days ago

        Didn’t say liberals were ‘the left’. Just said that letting fascists win and putting the blame on the liberals, as every other problem in America apparently lays upon, is absurd.

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            26 days ago

            The Dems were responsible for running a bad campaign. 2/3s of the American electorate were responsible for approving of, or not caring about, fascism. These fascists are now doing fascist things, which is, believe it or not, the fascists’ fault.

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              26 days ago

              Woah, woah, hold up a minute. Since when are we expected to take personal responsibility? I intend to blame you when I cut off my nose to spite my face. You can’t change the rules now!

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                26 days ago

                You sound like you have a promising future as a GOP speech-writer! Assuming they still need speech-writers after the electorate is dumbed down further. At this point, just making monkey screeches for an hour might be enough to get the appropriate Pavlovian reaction from the GOP’s base.

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                  At this point, just making monkey screeches for an hour might be enough to get the appropriate Pavlovian reaction from the GOP’s base.

                  What does that way about the DNC and the campaign they ran if you believe this is all it takes to win an election? This is akin to the fascist-originated propaganda that characterizes their enemies as both incredibly weak and incredibly strong at the same time.

                  Apparently, screeching monkeys is all you need to convince people to vote for you, but the DNC couldn’t even accomplish that? They couldn’t even convince people that their leadership would be more beneficial than a bunch of fascists because all they gave us was empty rhetoric and the promise that they’d be just as harsh to the right-wing scapegoat-of-the-week as the right. Turns out that abandoning your base to appease a bunch of people that hate you is an excellent way to throw an election in favor of your opponent. Some of us learned this in 2016, but it sounds like there’s some ‘enlightened’ individuals out there that still haven’t learned this lesson even after it nearly happened again by a razor thin margin in 2020.

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      26 days ago

      The holocaust is Hans Vogel’s fault, ackshually

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        Did he also run on a platform supporting the holocaust “because it’s in the interest of our country and our ally” despite much of much of his constiuency and nearly the entire rest of the world saying otherwise?

        Did his supporters call their fellow party members “stupid, single-issue voters” when they vehemently rejected said platform?

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          Lol. Ironically, the left at the time (backed by Soviets) attacked liberals for not being left-wing enough. That division allowed the NSDAP to complete their seizure of power when a left+centre coalition could have stopped them.

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            26 days ago

            Sounds like centrist liberals have been causing everyone issues for generations now.

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              25 days ago

              The liberals who tried to stop the Nazis but then had to face attacks from people like you on the left as well? Congratulations, you must be very proud.

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                Well, when you support and espouse Nazi ideals, you should expect to be attacked for it. It didn’t work out for them then and it isn’t working out for them now either. Maybe they just need to try it 15 more times and it’ll finally work.

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                  You may have misunderstood what I’m saying. The German far-left spent its time attacking the social democrats (SPD) while the SPD were focused on stopping the Nazis. If the center and left had united, there’s a very real possibility that the Nazis would never have seized power, thus preventing WW2. And the far-left, of course, were rounded up along with other undesirables. I’m sure they had mad bragging rights in the concentration camp, though – “at least we didn’t side with the centrists!”