The Canadian government has insisted that information on domestic goods is readily available to all trading partners, even including nations that recently elected a felony-convicted game show host to be their head of state. Instead, the United States has decided to employ a rarely-chosen trade tactic that international economists refer to as the “fuck around and find out” model.

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      Those who voted certainly did. Those who chose to not vote did also. I don’t live in America but it was incredibly obvious this was coming. America chose to be represented by by this guy who said quite clearly what he was going to do.

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        And everything that’s happened so far was clearly spelled out in the project 2025 document. But people don’t read and now they’re all Pikachu face surprised.

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        His owner/donor fElon said as much, too. That we are going to suffer, but it will be worth it (to billionaires, I’m sure, not to the peasants he thinks need to “live within their means”).

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          I’m talking about America as a country, not you as an individual. I understand your frustration - I went through Brexit as someone who voted to remain and very definitely didn’t vote for a government that chose Boris Johnson as a leader.

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            It never ceases to disappoint me that people could look at Boris fucken Johnson or Donald duck and think “yup, that’s da fella I want to lead us”.

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          Apparently we all did. Outside of individually storming the white house and getting shot in the process, turns out all of us might as well have been sitting on our thumbs. I mean really,how exactly were we supposed to counter some of the absolute dumbest people on the planet that might as well have marked a ballot with a crayon?

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            americans, as a whole group, did choose this… you specifically might not have and i applaud you for that decision

            however the country that you live in DID choose this, and it wasn’t even like he lost the popular vote this time

            americans chose this

            and everyone globally has to live with it

            and everyone globally will choose how to insulate ourselves from it - once is a joke; twice means it’s really what your country as a whole chooses with eyes wide open. this wasn’t a fluke: this is america

            and then, i guess we will see what happens, but im going to be cheering on the australian government every time they pull away from the US from now on. i’m going to be cancelling US subscriptions and buying non-US product alternatives. i’m going to be pirating all US media

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                sure - there’s plenty of US-made things i enjoy… americans are some creative people. i’m not going to stop enjoying them as long as it doesn’t contribute to their economy

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            So we’re pretty much all the same now, even if we are extremely opposed to Trump. That means everyone that has a piece of shit leader or government is responsible for it if they are a citizen of the country. I totally understand why everyone shits on the USA and their citizens, but it’s pretty disheartening when you try to oppose the bullshit, but still get lumped in with everyone else.

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        Less than half in fact. Surprisingly, more than a third of our voting body didn’t vote. And that’s how he won.

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          One third of Americans (non voters) were happy to watch whilst another third (MAGAts) attempts to murder the other third everyone.

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            Well, that’s only counting the voting collective of Americans. Not the entire population. Sadly, there are a lot of people not of voting age or ineligible to vote that are counted.

            Point remains though.

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      Those who didn’t vote don’t matters. I don’t know why we’re supposed to acknowledge their existence in these discussions. In every way that actually matters, Americans chose this.

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        Soooo…. all of Germany chose Hitler? Of course they didn’t.

        I’m an American. I did not chose trump. Let’s stop with the blanket statements.

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          The statement “Americans chose this” does not mean or imply that all Americans chose this but congrats on being trivially right in a pedantic and irrelevant way. Most voters chose this, and that is the only thing that matters .

          I’m an American. I did not chose trump. Let’s stop with the blanket statements.

          Yeah I’ll definitely keep your delicate feelings at the forefront of my mind as your leaders madness starts destroying my country next week.

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            Right. And you be sure to keep blaming those that voted for the one person that had the chance to stop him while you’re at it because that’ll sure help a lot towards my keeping your delicate feelings in mind while he’s destroying your country next week.

            I tried to stop this shit. I did the right thing. Don’t bring this shit to my doorstep.

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              With reading comprehension that poor no wonder Trump is loved there. No one’s blaming you.

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          Funny, you don’t have a problem using blanket statements about who elected Trump when discussing people who don’t like the Democrats (regardless of how those people actually voted ), but you get upset at blanket statements that put the blame on all Americans. Isn’t that interesting?

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            Blanket statements that put the blame on Americans that voted against trump? Yeah… I have a huge problem with that.

            We actually tried to stop this.

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        You mean all the bots and edgelord kids telling everyone not to vote against trump, and instead vote third party? Or did you mean all the bots and edgelord kids that shouted at everyone to stay home in protest?

        Because if it wasn’t either of these two- I saw a lot of people urging others to vote for Harris. Otherwise known as the one person that had a chance to defeat trump. All while warning them of what would happen if they didn’t.

        And if I recall correctly- those warnings looked a lot like what’s happening right fucking now.

        MANY of us didn’t choose this. So don’t blame all of America for this shit. Be precise- blame the asshole single-issue dipshits that protested their way into a trump victory…There’s all still around-

        Go on… Be my guest.

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          I see you’re very concerned with third party voters. (Again) How much progress have you made replacing First-past-the-post voting in your state? You do want to solve the spoiler effect problem right?

          Nows the time to dig in and fight for the reform that would resolve your issues with people voting outside the two party system.

          Here are some videos to help you out. Best of luck to you.

          Videos on Electoral Reform

          First Past The Post voting (What most states use now)

          Videos on alternative electoral systems we can try out.

          STAR voting

          Alternative vote

          Ranked Choice voting

          Range Voting

          Single Transferable Vote

          Mixed Member Proportional representation

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          No. See, you don’t personally get to write the narrative.

          Here’s how it is:

          You are in the “United” states until you tell us otherwise. You are the ones renaming the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America. You are the ones who, by majority vote, decided that this was to be our world and our future.

          Your people. Your culture. Your country. Your leader. Your choices.

          Fucking own it. And if you don’t like it, or this response, FUCKING STAND UP AND CHANGE IT. But don’t ask ME to give a wet slap about your feelings or the when it is your country is an imperial expansionist empire trying to kick over anthills. I don’t owe you that courtesy and I’m disinclined to politeness of late towards my Southern neighbors.

          Do you, when you reflect on history, make such subtle distinctions? For example did Germany start world war 1 and 2 or should we defer to the feelings of the objectors to those conflicts when ascribing cause?

          Dumbass.

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            Point of order, Germany definitely didn’t start WW1 in the way they teach kids. It was the elites, their honor pacts, and a complete misunderstanding of what technology had done to war. And in fact Austria-Hungary was the first to declare war, (on Serbia), which triggered Russia and France to mobilize next. That left Germany with the option of watching Austria-Hungary lose a war and have Germany lose in the great power game or roll the dice. They rolled the dice, like every other Royal Family at the time.

            I think understanding how the international web of elites can affect us is key to avoiding world war 3. World War 2 is entirely on the Germans though, as is Trump’s second term on all Americans. We do need to stand up.

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            Cool. So you have no problem blaming those that tried to stop this from happening by voting for the one person that stood a chance against trump?

            Yeah… there goes any sympathy I had for you.

            Unbelievable.

            So I guess when all those trump supporting truckers fucked shit up in their little in their little convoys a few years back, that was you? You did that shit? Why? Why would you put so many people at risk over a president that didn’t even preside over your own country?

            If it sounds ridiculous to be having someone accuse you of shit you didn’t do, and then blame you for the damages, congratulations. You’re self-aware enough to know how ignorant you sound blaming trump on people who voted for Harris.

            Blocking you now as I don’t have conversations with people that can’t disagree without name calling, and blame victims for their problems.

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              If it sounds ridiculous to be having someone accuse you of shit you didn’t do

              You literally do this all the time. A vote for third parties? Not a vote for Trump, you still blame them for the election of Trump. A non-vote? Not a vote for Trump. Same goes for people who didn’t like Kamala and were openly critical of her, but still voted for her.

              You’re being a child. Either you think Trump’s election is the result of the entire electorate or you don’t. There’s no “except for people who voted for Democrats and were properly enthusiastic about it” get out of jail free card.

              Either we’re all to blame or only the people who actually voted for him are to blame. You can’t have it both ways.

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              As for your sympathy, you should probably keep it to yourself anyway. Nobody wants it. You would only use it to manipulate people anyway.