The Canadian government has insisted that information on domestic goods is readily available to all trading partners, even including nations that recently elected a felony-convicted game show host to be their head of state. Instead, the United States has decided to employ a rarely-chosen trade tactic that international economists refer to as the “fuck around and find out” model.

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      I have literally done this. Had a VM I didn’t know who owned in my lab, so I turned it off to see who complained or if it was really unnecessary. 3 min later I get a slack message asking if a VM was running.

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      Here’s some hints…the lumber we need to build houses, the oil we use to power/heat those houses and transport goods around the country (so, anything that spends time on a semi or delivery truck) and cement. So anyone that needs to purchase things that’s are transported or wants a house should be piping up soon.

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        I love how they didn’t even exempt heating oil for the northern states. They acknowledged that tariffing it was fucked up by only doing a 10 percent tariff on it but it didn’t cross their minds to just exempt it. A ten percent price increase on heating is going to literally kill people.

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          Dude let covid burn through New York City because it’s like 80% Democrats, letting people freeze is par for the course.

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            I hate that you’re right. In my poli sci classes they taught that every political decision has winners and and losers but I never thought we’d see a president killing Americans on purpose.

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          I’ve been in IT Operations for 8 years and do this practice but first I’ve heard of ‘scream test’ as well

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            Maybe it’s more common with databases and reporting? I’ve seen this a million times over the years with removing tables or reports. Then again, it’s possible I’ve only worked in places with poor data governance.

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    This doesn’t even have to be The Onion, but just straight news. This is exactly how it is going to work.

    I saw some of the dipshit commenters on a WSJ article giving examples of things affected and how their prices might change - lots of “Well, I don’t need these things, and paying 5 cents more for making brown people suffer is worth it, anyway!”

    Yeah, I guess we will see…

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      But the twist is that it still won’t be portrayed as Trump’s fault. Unfair Canada declares war for no reason or whatever.

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        Oh, without a doubt. I’ve already seen some of their ridiculous people try to prep their stupid base with “…but it will be worth it” kind of narratives. I bet you’ll hear more than a few of the marks parrot this idiocy.

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      I’ve seen a lot of “Canada needs us more than we need them”. Going to be a big wake up call when gas, electricity, cars, groceries, and a dozen other things suddenly jump more than 25% (because we all know the corpos will take the excuse to extract more value).

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    Did no one watch “How It’s Made”?

    That’s how I found out what goods are made in Canada.

    Like, you know, gum. Fucking bubble gum. The smallest-possible, easiest-to-make, most-ubiquitous thing. Found in every convenience store, drug store, newsstand, and vending machine.

    Do we make that in the States? Nooo… we gotta import that shit from our neighbors to the North. Like, do we make anything here?

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      We do but NAFTA really made things spread out. We’ve made a lot more progress unifying the North American economies than people think. This is going to be ten times as painful as Brexit was for the British. And to undo it Mexico and Canada are going to demand we take on a trade deficit with them as a way of helping their economies in case the deal goes south with the president after whoever is fixing this mess.

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    Machined components!

    You stupid sonobabich! You know a machined part costs less in Canada than here. But that’s not going to make parts here cost less! Its going to make my business fail instead!

    It’s going to be a little painful not having a job and living in the streets with my wife and kids freezing to death. It’s fucking snowing outside.

    I can design and sell a few things here and there but a few means machining is expensive. In the US you must buy a Shit ton of parts to make the price per part work, but if you fuck up on an order, that’s a huge deal. From Canada I can order a few parts, change something, order again. The scrap cost goes into the price to the costumer. In not gonna get fired if I screwup one order! (Famous last words). I don’t get paid less either. But if one screw up costs now as much as ten, then the price of the part becomes impossible to sell…think $15 for two small bottles of water at the AMC theater…theaters are done. I paid because I was thirsty, but fuck if I’m ever going back to watch a movie. At least I’m boot legging my own water.

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      If you’re actually in danger of homelessness I encourage you to look at the many guides to doing it in a way that makes it easier to get back off the street as soon as possible. A lot of people try to hold on for far too long and end up in legal trouble and blacklisted from renting a place.

      As to McFuckstick, there’s not much we can do until 2026. I’m sorry he’s put you in a bad position.

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        I’m not gonna go homeless but I’m definitely in negative growth.

        In December I had $300 bucks on a gift card that I wanted to spend on my photography hobbies. Now I’ve just loaded the monies into the bank account and my hobby is looking at the wall. Looking at my phone is enough photography I guess.

        But I remember how it was to be homeless when I had just migrated here. How can I be here looking towards a future that includes that as a real possibility? I’m just here awaiting the new part pricing I’m gonna face. It sucks.

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    Nearly 90 million voting eligible Americans chose to not vote at all with a confirmed white supremacist, rapist and convicted felon on the ballot.

    Many of us warned that if he won, democracy would end forever.

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      you can’t get out of it this time. he won the popular vote. not voting is voting.

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          that’s not an unknown. vote suppression has always been a thing. especially dem voters know this. I’m not talking about the voters; I’m talking about non voters. you don’t show up, you vote for whoever comes up. vote suppression did not suppress 86 million votes.

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            I didn’t claim it did, people can protest vote however they wish.

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              and accept the consequences. this is the result of their protest votes. enjoy.

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          We still own this as a country. Any other attitude risks not making the necessary changes to prevent this in the future.

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          It’s funny that you got upvoted for saying the same thing that got me downvoted

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        Winning the popular vote doesn’t mean everyone voted for him. Besides, realistically he didn’t even do that.

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          I guess you missed the part where OP wrote “NOT VOTING IS VOTING”.

          In the 2020 election, 81,283,501 people voted for Biden while 74,223,975 voted for Trump.

          In the 2024 election, 75,017,613 voted for Harris, while 77,302,580 voted for Trump.

          Thata 155,507,476 - 152,230,193 = 3,187,283 fewer people voting.

          Biden got 81.2m votes vs Harris getting 75m votes… in other words, people who showed up to vote for Biden in 2020 sat out and didn’t vote in 2024, which directly resulted in Trump winning.

          Not voting is voting, get it now?

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            I commented saying that I don’t think Trump got 77,302,580 votes. Get it now? Bringing up Bidens and Harris’s vote count is irrelevant.

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              are you claiming election fraud?

              that’s ridiculous but either way you’re missing the point.

              he got more than 77 million votes. close to 86 million people didn’t vote. like it or not, that’s still 86 million votes.

              not voting isn’t a way to say “I don’t like either one”, it says “I’m on board with whoever wins by people who actually show up”. so that’s a vote for mango mussolini. would’ve been for Harris if that 1.6% margin swung the other way, but it didn’t.

              so essentially he got the stamp of approval of around 160 million people.

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                are you claiming election fraud?

                Kinda, yeah. The conversation was that we don’t get to complain because “everyone” voted for Trump. Basically implying that all of America wanted this. I just expressed my doubt that the candidate with a history of election fraud got the numbers that are claimed. More importantly though, there were still plenty of people who did not vote for Trump and are upset about current events.

                Did lots of people sit out the election in protest, yes. Did lots of people move changing the demographics of certain areas over the past few years, yes. Nothing changes the fact that he has more followers in high places than he did during his 1st term. I remember Trump wanting to find 11,000 votes last election. How many did he find this time with more support?

                I’m getting downvoted for essentially saying “I didn’t vote for any of this and Trump probably cheated anyways since he has a history of it now” in response to you saying that there is no difference between the will of ALL of the American people and the Commander in Cheese and I think that’s hilarious. Apparently being American means being pro Trump now, no matter what. Trump didn’t need evidence or facts when he claimed election fraud back in May 2020 months before the election even started. So why are you asking me for receipts, this is a vibes based reality we live in now. Trump saved California from the fire but all the big cities are still being burned by criminals and immigrants right. At least that’s what the news and Trump are reporting.

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                  no one said all, or everyone. some people claim the American people didn’t want this. in a democracy the will of the people is determined by the majority of the voting-eligible population. around 160 million people wanted this. that’s a very solid representative bunch.

                  even if they did election fraud, which is completely speculative copium with no evidence whatsoever, but even if he did, he sure as fuck couldn’t fake 80-90 million votes. you want to prevent someone winning by fudging a couple thousand votes here and there, you show up.

                  the fact remains: 70+ million people voted for him, and 80+ million more were fine with him. that’s a huge majority that can’t be explained away with fraud.

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      That shit should be illegal to sell up here in Canada. I see it in stores right next to the pure Canadian maple syrup which doesn’t cost that much more than the fake corn syrup crap. The aunt Jemima costs like $6 and the real stuff is $10

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    Americans did not. An orange fascist, who Americans also did not ask for, did

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      he won the popular vote this time, so they did ask for it. sorry.

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      Americans allowed this prick to pursue a political career. Any sane country would’ve laughed him into oblivion.

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      Those who voted certainly did. Those who chose to not vote did also. I don’t live in America but it was incredibly obvious this was coming. America chose to be represented by by this guy who said quite clearly what he was going to do.

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        And everything that’s happened so far was clearly spelled out in the project 2025 document. But people don’t read and now they’re all Pikachu face surprised.

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        His owner/donor fElon said as much, too. That we are going to suffer, but it will be worth it (to billionaires, I’m sure, not to the peasants he thinks need to “live within their means”).

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          I’m talking about America as a country, not you as an individual. I understand your frustration - I went through Brexit as someone who voted to remain and very definitely didn’t vote for a government that chose Boris Johnson as a leader.

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            It never ceases to disappoint me that people could look at Boris fucken Johnson or Donald duck and think “yup, that’s da fella I want to lead us”.

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          Apparently we all did. Outside of individually storming the white house and getting shot in the process, turns out all of us might as well have been sitting on our thumbs. I mean really,how exactly were we supposed to counter some of the absolute dumbest people on the planet that might as well have marked a ballot with a crayon?

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            americans, as a whole group, did choose this… you specifically might not have and i applaud you for that decision

            however the country that you live in DID choose this, and it wasn’t even like he lost the popular vote this time

            americans chose this

            and everyone globally has to live with it

            and everyone globally will choose how to insulate ourselves from it - once is a joke; twice means it’s really what your country as a whole chooses with eyes wide open. this wasn’t a fluke: this is america

            and then, i guess we will see what happens, but im going to be cheering on the australian government every time they pull away from the US from now on. i’m going to be cancelling US subscriptions and buying non-US product alternatives. i’m going to be pirating all US media

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                sure - there’s plenty of US-made things i enjoy… americans are some creative people. i’m not going to stop enjoying them as long as it doesn’t contribute to their economy

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            So we’re pretty much all the same now, even if we are extremely opposed to Trump. That means everyone that has a piece of shit leader or government is responsible for it if they are a citizen of the country. I totally understand why everyone shits on the USA and their citizens, but it’s pretty disheartening when you try to oppose the bullshit, but still get lumped in with everyone else.

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        Less than half in fact. Surprisingly, more than a third of our voting body didn’t vote. And that’s how he won.

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          One third of Americans (non voters) were happy to watch whilst another third (MAGAts) attempts to murder the other third everyone.

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            Well, that’s only counting the voting collective of Americans. Not the entire population. Sadly, there are a lot of people not of voting age or ineligible to vote that are counted.

            Point remains though.

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        You mean all the bots and edgelord kids telling everyone not to vote against trump, and instead vote third party? Or did you mean all the bots and edgelord kids that shouted at everyone to stay home in protest?

        Because if it wasn’t either of these two- I saw a lot of people urging others to vote for Harris. Otherwise known as the one person that had a chance to defeat trump. All while warning them of what would happen if they didn’t.

        And if I recall correctly- those warnings looked a lot like what’s happening right fucking now.

        MANY of us didn’t choose this. So don’t blame all of America for this shit. Be precise- blame the asshole single-issue dipshits that protested their way into a trump victory…There’s all still around-

        Go on… Be my guest.

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          I see you’re very concerned with third party voters. (Again) How much progress have you made replacing First-past-the-post voting in your state? You do want to solve the spoiler effect problem right?

          Nows the time to dig in and fight for the reform that would resolve your issues with people voting outside the two party system.

          Here are some videos to help you out. Best of luck to you.

          Videos on Electoral Reform

          First Past The Post voting (What most states use now)

          Videos on alternative electoral systems we can try out.

          STAR voting

          Alternative vote

          Ranked Choice voting

          Range Voting

          Single Transferable Vote

          Mixed Member Proportional representation

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          No. See, you don’t personally get to write the narrative.

          Here’s how it is:

          You are in the “United” states until you tell us otherwise. You are the ones renaming the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America. You are the ones who, by majority vote, decided that this was to be our world and our future.

          Your people. Your culture. Your country. Your leader. Your choices.

          Fucking own it. And if you don’t like it, or this response, FUCKING STAND UP AND CHANGE IT. But don’t ask ME to give a wet slap about your feelings or the when it is your country is an imperial expansionist empire trying to kick over anthills. I don’t owe you that courtesy and I’m disinclined to politeness of late towards my Southern neighbors.

          Do you, when you reflect on history, make such subtle distinctions? For example did Germany start world war 1 and 2 or should we defer to the feelings of the objectors to those conflicts when ascribing cause?

          Dumbass.

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            Point of order, Germany definitely didn’t start WW1 in the way they teach kids. It was the elites, their honor pacts, and a complete misunderstanding of what technology had done to war. And in fact Austria-Hungary was the first to declare war, (on Serbia), which triggered Russia and France to mobilize next. That left Germany with the option of watching Austria-Hungary lose a war and have Germany lose in the great power game or roll the dice. They rolled the dice, like every other Royal Family at the time.

            I think understanding how the international web of elites can affect us is key to avoiding world war 3. World War 2 is entirely on the Germans though, as is Trump’s second term on all Americans. We do need to stand up.

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            Cool. So you have no problem blaming those that tried to stop this from happening by voting for the one person that stood a chance against trump?

            Yeah… there goes any sympathy I had for you.

            Unbelievable.

            So I guess when all those trump supporting truckers fucked shit up in their little in their little convoys a few years back, that was you? You did that shit? Why? Why would you put so many people at risk over a president that didn’t even preside over your own country?

            If it sounds ridiculous to be having someone accuse you of shit you didn’t do, and then blame you for the damages, congratulations. You’re self-aware enough to know how ignorant you sound blaming trump on people who voted for Harris.

            Blocking you now as I don’t have conversations with people that can’t disagree without name calling, and blame victims for their problems.

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              If it sounds ridiculous to be having someone accuse you of shit you didn’t do

              You literally do this all the time. A vote for third parties? Not a vote for Trump, you still blame them for the election of Trump. A non-vote? Not a vote for Trump. Same goes for people who didn’t like Kamala and were openly critical of her, but still voted for her.

              You’re being a child. Either you think Trump’s election is the result of the entire electorate or you don’t. There’s no “except for people who voted for Democrats and were properly enthusiastic about it” get out of jail free card.

              Either we’re all to blame or only the people who actually voted for him are to blame. You can’t have it both ways.

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              As for your sympathy, you should probably keep it to yourself anyway. Nobody wants it. You would only use it to manipulate people anyway.

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      Those who didn’t vote don’t matters. I don’t know why we’re supposed to acknowledge their existence in these discussions. In every way that actually matters, Americans chose this.

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        Soooo…. all of Germany chose Hitler? Of course they didn’t.

        I’m an American. I did not chose trump. Let’s stop with the blanket statements.

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          The statement “Americans chose this” does not mean or imply that all Americans chose this but congrats on being trivially right in a pedantic and irrelevant way. Most voters chose this, and that is the only thing that matters .

          I’m an American. I did not chose trump. Let’s stop with the blanket statements.

          Yeah I’ll definitely keep your delicate feelings at the forefront of my mind as your leaders madness starts destroying my country next week.

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            Right. And you be sure to keep blaming those that voted for the one person that had the chance to stop him while you’re at it because that’ll sure help a lot towards my keeping your delicate feelings in mind while he’s destroying your country next week.

            I tried to stop this shit. I did the right thing. Don’t bring this shit to my doorstep.

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              With reading comprehension that poor no wonder Trump is loved there. No one’s blaming you.

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          Funny, you don’t have a problem using blanket statements about who elected Trump when discussing people who don’t like the Democrats (regardless of how those people actually voted ), but you get upset at blanket statements that put the blame on all Americans. Isn’t that interesting?

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            Blanket statements that put the blame on Americans that voted against trump? Yeah… I have a huge problem with that.

            We actually tried to stop this.