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HobbitFoot @thelemmy.club to Ask Lemmy@lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 months ago

What parody surpassed what it was trying to parody?

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What parody surpassed what it was trying to parody?

HobbitFoot @thelemmy.club to Ask Lemmy@lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 months ago
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  • Björn Tantau@swg-empire.de
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    For my wife Spaceballs is the original and Star Wars is the spoof.

    But more seriously, too many people didn’t register that Scream was a parody. That way it managed to surpass older slashers.

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      I wouldn’t call Scream a parody. Scary Movie was the parody. Scream was just self aware that it was a scary movie in a universe where scary movies exist.

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        I watched the original Scream years after seeing Scary Movie, and realized Scary Movie is just Scream on cocaine. A lot of the jokes are the same or just slightly different.

        What’s the line between being self aware and a parody?

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          What’s the line between being self aware and a parody?

          I feel like this would require a Venn diagram. Not so much a “this crosses the line” but some movies are parody, some are self aware, some are both and some are neither.

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            Funnily enough, I looked up self awareness vs parody, and the first movie based article specifically addressed those two movies.

            https://slowburnhorror.com/2024/11/27/self-aware-but-not-self-conscious-how-tremors-and-maxxxine-write-love-letters-to-the-horror-genre/

            To summarize, parodies show why those things being parodied are dumb, while self awareness is embracing the tropes while not taking itself seriously. Which answers my question.

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          What’s the line between being self aware and a parody?

          How many lines of blow does it take before you stop writing a self-aware script and devolve into parody?

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      I saw Spaceballs before I saw Star Wars. I cannot take any Star Wars movie seriously now.

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        Imagine that.
        A movie set in the future with advanced space craft yet has guys dueling with pink glowsticks.
        I didn’t need Spaceballs to come to that conclusion when I was about 9.

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          its not in the future though its a long time ago

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      Before Spaceballs, contemporaneous with Star Wars, we had “Hardware Wars”:

      https://youtu.be/WUDEUQMCyKE

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        You’ll laugh!.You’ll cry! You’ll kiss three bucks goodbye!

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      My gf used to believe that Scary Movie was the original. She didn’t had idea that there was an actual movie called Scream.

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