The Hamas-run Health Ministry in the Gaza Strip says at least 500 people have been killed in an explosion that it says was caused by an Israeli airstrike.
Updated: Israel denies involvement in deadly Gaza hospital blast, says explosion caused by Islamic Jihad
So was cutting off water and power to the whole area, so was using white phosphorus in populated areas, so was killing unarmed people in their own towns, so was…
Of course the person shilling for the IDF doesnt seem to understand that Palestinians =/= Hamas nor that the wholesale slaughter of innocents is in no way a justifiable response
Oh they understand that perfectly well, the trouble is that they choose not to make that distinction because otherwise the basis for their entire anti-Palestinian worldview collapses
IDK, I’m pretty sure HotDaniel’s worldview would hold firm even in the face of the ontological equivalent of nuclear weapons. At this point I’m kinda just bouncing abstract concepts off them as a way to illustrate the inherent flaws in their worldview to anyone that might be reading it (though lets be real, I’m mostly just a drunk analyst that’s sick of the IDF killing my friends and is taking out my sorta-kinda-impotent rage on someone who couldn’t debate their way out of a damp paper sack given both hands, a map, a fire axe and clearcut verbal instruction on how to debate one’s way out of a damp paper sack using a fire axe, map and both hands)
Quote where I said I am anti-Palestinian. I am anti-Hamas. Always have been and always will be. You have to manufacture statements about me to attack me. You’re defending literal terrorists who would kill you without hesitation.
“Genocide of Palestinian people is justifiable because hamas attacked Israel.”
All those things I mentioned were specifically war crimes against Palestinians, not hamas. You instantly associating those things with hamas shows exactly where your thoughts are at.
I have been and always will be anti-Hamas. And never have I said that Palestinians == Hamas. You have to misquote me to attack me. You’re defending literal terrorists that would kill you without hesitation, who raped parents and brutalized children. Israel has shown great restraint towards the Palestinian people. Does Gaza still exist? Have they leveled it, like any other nation would have after having hundreds of rockets per day shot at them? Of course, Israel is trying to minimize civilian casualties, and for that you will attack them.
I can’t be arsed to dig through your comments and find a specific example so I’ll just go with the equally valid rebuttal: You have implied it, however! The assertion that israel is defending itself against “existential threats” (and clarifying that threat is Hamas) while at the same time arguing that israel is totally justified logically implies that the thousands of civilians being wiped out by israel are equally culpable for Hamas’ crimes, and are a threat to israel.
If the inhabitants of the Warsaw ghetto escaped and murdered German citizens living around the ghetto, would you be pointing out this crime or would you think it more relevant to discuss the crimes of the Nazis in power, still going on? Israel has been doing this for decades. Even just the night after the attack by Hamas, Israeli airstrikes killed over 300 children.
Yes, it would be more relevant to discuss the context of the Nazi oppression. In the case of Israel, they clearly are defending themselves from an existential threat from Hamas. And they have shown great restraint in what they’ve done. You don’t have to like it, but any other nation would have leveled Gaza by now, but Israel has not done that. They’ve stated the target of their war very clearly. They are there to dedtroy Hamas. Undoubtedly, innocents will die. That happens in any war. The quickest path to peace for both sides, is for Hamas to be destroyed. If their is cancer in your body, you kill good cells in order to kill the cancer. It’s sad, but necessary.
So was cutting off water and power to the whole area, so was using white phosphorus in populated areas, so was killing unarmed people in their own towns, so was…
So was invading Israel, raping and killing its parents, brutalizing it’s children, and uploading it all to Facebook. Oh and the hostages.
Of course the person shilling for the IDF doesnt seem to understand that Palestinians =/= Hamas nor that the wholesale slaughter of innocents is in no way a justifiable response
Oh they understand that perfectly well, the trouble is that they choose not to make that distinction because otherwise the basis for their entire anti-Palestinian worldview collapses
IDK, I’m pretty sure HotDaniel’s worldview would hold firm even in the face of the ontological equivalent of nuclear weapons. At this point I’m kinda just bouncing abstract concepts off them as a way to illustrate the inherent flaws in their worldview to anyone that might be reading it (though lets be real, I’m mostly just a drunk analyst that’s sick of the IDF killing my friends and is taking out my sorta-kinda-impotent rage on someone who couldn’t debate their way out of a damp paper sack given both hands, a map, a fire axe and clearcut verbal instruction on how to debate one’s way out of a damp paper sack using a fire axe, map and both hands)
Quote where I said I am anti-Palestinian. I am anti-Hamas. Always have been and always will be. You have to manufacture statements about me to attack me. You’re defending literal terrorists who would kill you without hesitation.
You’re arguing in bad faith here so I’m going to move on from this discussion. Wishing you the best.
You literally made up that I’m anti-Palestinian. You’re as bad-faith as they come. So, bye.
Let me spell out your own argument.
“Genocide of Palestinian people is justifiable because hamas attacked Israel.”
All those things I mentioned were specifically war crimes against Palestinians, not hamas. You instantly associating those things with hamas shows exactly where your thoughts are at.
I have been and always will be anti-Hamas. And never have I said that Palestinians == Hamas. You have to misquote me to attack me. You’re defending literal terrorists that would kill you without hesitation, who raped parents and brutalized children. Israel has shown great restraint towards the Palestinian people. Does Gaza still exist? Have they leveled it, like any other nation would have after having hundreds of rockets per day shot at them? Of course, Israel is trying to minimize civilian casualties, and for that you will attack them.
I can’t be arsed to dig through your comments and find a specific example so I’ll just go with the equally valid rebuttal: You have implied it, however! The assertion that israel is defending itself against “existential threats” (and clarifying that threat is Hamas) while at the same time arguing that israel is totally justified logically implies that the thousands of civilians being wiped out by israel are equally culpable for Hamas’ crimes, and are a threat to israel.
If the inhabitants of the Warsaw ghetto escaped and murdered German citizens living around the ghetto, would you be pointing out this crime or would you think it more relevant to discuss the crimes of the Nazis in power, still going on? Israel has been doing this for decades. Even just the night after the attack by Hamas, Israeli airstrikes killed over 300 children.
Yes, it would be more relevant to discuss the context of the Nazi oppression. In the case of Israel, they clearly are defending themselves from an existential threat from Hamas. And they have shown great restraint in what they’ve done. You don’t have to like it, but any other nation would have leveled Gaza by now, but Israel has not done that. They’ve stated the target of their war very clearly. They are there to dedtroy Hamas. Undoubtedly, innocents will die. That happens in any war. The quickest path to peace for both sides, is for Hamas to be destroyed. If their is cancer in your body, you kill good cells in order to kill the cancer. It’s sad, but necessary.