The Hamas-run Health Ministry in the Gaza Strip says at least 500 people have been killed in an explosion that it says was caused by an Israeli airstrike.
Updated: Israel denies involvement in deadly Gaza hospital blast, says explosion caused by Islamic Jihad
The whistle tells you the direction the rocket came from relative to the position of the camera. We know the rocket had to pass over the camera position before striking the hospital, and from that you can extrapolate where it came from.
None of the videos purporting to show a misfired rocket align with the one verified video showing the strike. The video posted by idf of what they claim is the rocket barrage responsible for hitting the hospital was shown to have been taken after the hospital strike (and has since been removed from their post).
There is a lot of finger pointing and blame going on right now. I’m less inclined to believe the side misrepresenting evidence, but neither side can be trusted on their word alone. This means we need evidence, which is in short supply at the moment.
The first and immediate “irrefutable proof” video Israeli twitter shared, was quickly removed as it was shown to not have the correct timestamp. After that we’ve seen videos of previous Hamas’ rocket barrages from years passed bandied about. Then we have these apparently legit videos that clearly depict something travelling at high speed with an explosion far beyond what Hamas’ rockets do.
So we’re supposed to believe that a hospital (which had been given warning knocks), was coincidentally where the most powerful Hamas rocket blast ever just happened to occur, with a defective rocket nonetheless, traveling at a high enough velocity to sound exactly like a long distance missile hit. All the while the “irrefutable evidence” for this keeps changing by the hour.
Oh yeah and someone contracted by Israeli government for media relations was also immediately confirming the Israeli strike on the hospital, and then took the post down shortly after.
Al Jazeera’s shown time (Mecca) and Gaza share the same time zone at this time of year. However, I maybe got the time of the attack wrong, it’s unclear.
There’s video of the failed launch here
Watch 19:59 to 20:01 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtruJztXE5w
Also, from Al Jazeera broadcast https://twitter.com/OrianShamriz/status/1714365814160175213?t=WqGUoKEcSpLYf14JOjk_3A&s=19
That seems to just be a live webcam feed.
Yeah I fucked up so I edited in the time stamp
Watch 19:59 to 20:01
Is that 19:59 minutes in or at the time 19:59?
Edit: I am guessing at the time of the Gaza City video since there is a barrage of missions being fired.
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My dude live streams work in negative timestamps (T- from live feed), those numbers are useless.
The second video is also not useful without a geographical reference. It’s literally a video shot in the dark of a missile launch.
A much closer video shows an incoming whistle, not an outgoing sound: https://twitter.com/i/status/1714366113818038412
My dude I meant the timestamp from within the Livestream in the top right of the left cam. Local time, not minutes elapsed
A rocket misfiring and hitting a elsewhere in the city (as shown in my video) would make an incoming whistle.
Apparently this guy thinks the missile was launched from inside the hospital or something.
The whistle tells you the direction the rocket came from relative to the position of the camera. We know the rocket had to pass over the camera position before striking the hospital, and from that you can extrapolate where it came from.
None of the videos purporting to show a misfired rocket align with the one verified video showing the strike. The video posted by idf of what they claim is the rocket barrage responsible for hitting the hospital was shown to have been taken after the hospital strike (and has since been removed from their post).
There is a lot of finger pointing and blame going on right now. I’m less inclined to believe the side misrepresenting evidence, but neither side can be trusted on their word alone. This means we need evidence, which is in short supply at the moment.
The first and immediate “irrefutable proof” video Israeli twitter shared, was quickly removed as it was shown to not have the correct timestamp. After that we’ve seen videos of previous Hamas’ rocket barrages from years passed bandied about. Then we have these apparently legit videos that clearly depict something travelling at high speed with an explosion far beyond what Hamas’ rockets do.
So we’re supposed to believe that a hospital (which had been given warning knocks), was coincidentally where the most powerful Hamas rocket blast ever just happened to occur, with a defective rocket nonetheless, traveling at a high enough velocity to sound exactly like a long distance missile hit. All the while the “irrefutable evidence” for this keeps changing by the hour.
Oh yeah and someone contracted by Israeli government for media relations was also immediately confirming the Israeli strike on the hospital, and then took the post down shortly after.
The time on Al Jazeera’s broadcast doesn’t seem to match the time of the attack.
Discrepancies are due to time zones.
See also this (entire) thread:
https://twitter.com/GeoConfirmed/status/1714390274900734049
Al Jazeera’s shown time (Mecca) and Gaza share the same time zone at this time of year. However, I maybe got the time of the attack wrong, it’s unclear.
Time zones would be in full hour differences, not a little over half an hour.
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