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For now, at least, the information and artifacts are being preserved.
If they stay in power past 2028, that will end, they’ll start destroying it permanently, when they find it.
We need to get this stuff out of the country, someplace safer. Perhaps Germany?
A broken clock is right twice a day. Fuck Brian Tyler Coen, you AIPAC paid fucking shill.
He’s right about most stuff he says.
The issue is what he’s paid not to say.
That sounds pretty damning. What is he paid not to say? Or, how do we know? Either is good. Also, does he have a job? I don’t know who that is anyway, other than some random twitter guy that shows up in posts a lot.
AIPAC paid fucking shill.
is he? all i find is the chorus stuff which is pretty recent. Just seems like a pretty leftish liberal that has middling of the road takes on the Palestine/Israel conflict.
He was pro-genocide when Biden was doing it, then quietly pivoted to being anti-genocide when the genocide fell into Trump’s hands. He’s an unprincipled piece of shit who only cares about making Team Blue look good.
It’s no anti-American to recognize the shitty parts of your past if the goal is to learn from it to improve the future.
It is an extremely shitty thing to recognize the shitty parts of your past if the goal is to recreate them.
Never againWho controls the past, controls the future.
Who controls the present, controls the past.Or history is written by the victors.
I wish RATM were still together.
Same headline every day: Facist leader brings America further into Facism. Americans do nothing.
Some Americans are resisting in tons of different ways. There have been 24/7 “music festivals” (ICE protests that get labeled as music festivals because Tiktok will take down videos tagged with protests.) in LA and Portland for months now. Americans have been shot defending their neighbors, ICE agents have been shot.
It’s important to remember that the Billionaires control the news and they won’t air anything that makes it look like the common folk have a chance of resisting.
More reason public non profit news and radio is essential.
Also the reason those things are so expensive to run.
Show up in large groups, and show up ARMED.
C’mon man, you know Americans always do the right thing.
Once they’ve tried everything else.
hey that’s not fair, sometimes we try the wrong thing twice.
Well we gotta make sure that the wrong thing wasn’t actually the right thing we did wrong the first time around.
That’s included in “everything else”
What should we do?
Something? Anything? Stop acting like this is normal and going about your daily lives like this is something that will blow over on its own.
An unorganized response to Jimmy Kimmel being silenced for insulting dear leader got him back on the air pretty quickly. Imagine what could be done with an organized response.
How to organize is most of the problem I think
Be prepared to do things that will get you arrested. Sorry, you didn’t do a damn thing when you were less at risk. You waited too long to fight. Now it’s going to be harder and you’re going to have to stop worrying about losing your job and maintaining your comfortable lifestyle. You and people like you are responsible for having let it get to this point.
this is an extremely unpopular but correct assessment, and the left is going to lose until they realize this. i don’t know how to impress upon people the importance of physical resistance and rebellion. our leaders do not fear us because they have no reason to. think of the arsenal they have against us. they cannot lose as long as we remain divided, deprived, and destitute. we need to start through less physical means like coordinated mass labor strikes and organized community autonomous zones, but we must be prepared and willing to extend our resistance to a violent reach. the state enacts violence on us every single day through legal measures and economic manipulation. we are within our right to self-defense of the system we are enslaved to. disrupt communication lines, destroy their resources, burn their storages, and do what you can to avoid retributive violence. resist the urge to work solo and coordinate your strategy with a team.
this isn’t paranoia. i hate that i have to state this so bluntly but so few of us are appropriately responding and preparing. if nothing happens, hey, great! wonderful. but shit has been moving fast. it hasn’t been a year of this administration and we have three more. you don’t want to be stuck somewhere in six months because you thought things “were bad but not that bad.” it’s that bad, i promise. get your passports, leave your Red state if you are able to especially if you are a minority.
Trump’s FBI is considering designating transgender Americans as extremists on a federal watch list. i shouldn’t have to explain why that simply cannot be allowed to happen. we agree, right? …right?
less physical means like coordinated mass labor strikes and organized community autonomous zones
Industrial sabotage, catfishing/exposing, destruction of infrastructure, clandestine press/broadcasting, tax resistance- there’s plenty that can be done without hurting people.
there is, of course, but we shouldn’t avoid the possibility of that being necessary.
Be prepared to do things that will get you arrested.
Such as? Or just in general?
Be real with me for a second.
Are you 1) legitimately clueless about what you could be doing (in which case, honestly, I don’t care if they put you in an unmarked van), or 2) trying to bait me into saying something that‘a going to get me a ban (in which case, honestly, I don’t care if they put you in an unmarked van)?
Vote Green.
You’re not going to vote your way out of fascism.
Ironically the US Holocaust Museum is basically a part of Israel’s PR wing and has done extensive work in whitewashing Israel’s modern-day Holocaust in Palestine, even saying that “Never again” only means “never again for Jews” and genocides of other people is OK. It should be shut down for that reason, not Trump’s.
link? or deets?
US Holocaust museum removes anti-genocide post amid Gaza atrocities
US Holocaust Memorial Museum Board Member Calls Gazans “Fundamentally Evil”
US Holocaust Museum accuses Mamdani of ‘exploiting’ Warsaw Ghetto Uprising
Here’s a post from their own blog, saying that it’s antisemetic to not be a Zionist (“All sectors of society must condemn antisemitism, including anti-Zionism.”)
So yeah, fuck 'em.
Remember guys, amid all this israel crap, that the jews that died in the holocaust are not the jews of today that are orchestrating a massacre.
“It’s appalling that a museum established for the purpose of educating the public about genocide and the Holocaust not only refuses to acknowledge the reality of Israel’s actions in Gaza, but [is] removing a social media post that merely stated that ‘never again’ is not intended for just Jews, in order for it to not be interpreted as a response to the genocide in Gaza.”
Wow. That’s from the first link. I didn’t get to the rest.
That last one. YIKES.
[…] said United States Holocaust Memorial Museum Chairman Stuart E. Eizenstat. “All sectors of society must unflinchingly confront antisemitism in all of its forms—including anti-Zionism—before it provokes more violence against innocent people. […]"
The deafening irony of that statement. I know what’s intended, but it can also be read as meaning to confront the twisted and redefined form of antisemitism itself. Which is to say: divorce it of anything to do with zionism.
Constantly flabbergasted by the sheer levels of cowardice on display by every. single. institution in this country.
I think it’s people not wanting to lose their jobs. They killed jobs so you have to hang on to the one you have. Even if it’s against your morals.
Does your family go hungry for principles? Quite the question.
If anyone should understand the lessons of fascist appeasement learned in WW2, you’d think it would be the people running a Holocaust museum. Go figure.
In this case yes. It’s the fucking holocaust museum licking Nazi boots. There are other jobs.
“I was just following orders"
They will come for for everyone even those who “keep their jobs”
Fuck their jobs. Everyone who ever stood up for anything had a job to lose. They’re cowards, they’re complicit, and this goes for EVERY American sitting at home wringing their hands about the far right and doing fuck all about it.
I’m constantly flabbergasted that Americans continue to expect institutions to do the resisting while they do nothing.
Well, . . . who do you think the institutions are?
And the people being blamed are the people considered to be in charge of the institutions. Not the other people “following orders”, not the people still patronizing the institutions, and not the people complaining about the institutions doing nothing why they do nothing themselves.
What do you mean, nothing? They did a parade and made signs! It was the BIGGEST parade! They all said “we don’t like this!” That wasn’t at all a big clown show- totally effective.
Just say No, Sara Bloomfield. You’ve been a literal director of a Holocaust museum for decades, what part of that job taught you to hide your head in the sand.
it’s well beyond cowardice at this point. they’re eager to comply the second an EO is so much as hinted at. this is absolute subservience and I hope history remembers them.
And every day it’s just more shit shoveled on top.
I’m tired, boss.
Too tired. With ya on that.
They gotcha by the mortgages.
Fun fact: the word “mortgage” means “death contract”
That’s why leaders of companies and organizations make the big bucks. They’re there to make tough decisions and set a good example for the rest of us.
Down in the Arkansas Delta, about 40 miles from anywhere, there’s lots of soybean fields. In one particular field, which you wouldn’t even notice if you weren’t looking for it, there is a small grove of trees.
If you walk around the perimeter, you’ll find little speaker boxes along the way. When you activate each one, you’ll hear the voice of none other than George Takei talking about the place you’re standing in. It’s the site of the Rohwer internment camp where thousands of Americans, including Takei, were shipped in by rail and held prisoner during WWII for no other reason than they were of Japanese descent.
There’s no sign of an internment camp there now. The only remains are monuments the prisoners built to their friends and family members who were killed fighting for the Allies.
Some people are stupid or naive enough to believe that the United States can do no wrong. Some are even arrogant enough to think that admitting we were wrong is “unpatriotic”. Yet, like every empire that has ever existed, the US has committed many wrongs. History cannot be erased, undone, or whitewashed, despite the pathetic attempts of sad despots. And if we choose not to learn from it, we will soon repeat it.
places like missouri and mississipi still have some form of segregation: mostly affluent whites near black areas.
a field of soybeans that will go bad since tbe farmers have no one to sell them to…
Rohwer War Relocation Center
Tule Lake War Relocation Center
…the See Also section lists a few.
That’s right folks! Being American now means you reject basic facts and history. Btw, did you know Tylenol causes Autism and its the gulf of America now?
Oh yeah, and if you don’t comply with the new “American” brainwashing you get targeted as a terrorist to America, the land of the free
FREEEEEEEEDOM. AMERICA IS THE FREEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD. NOW GET DOWN ON YOUR HANDS AND KNEES AND GROVEL TO DEAR LEADER DUMPY OR YOU’LL BE DEPORTED!
We’ve always been at war with Eastasia
That’s right folks! Being American now means you reject basic facts and history.
Yea no, they became what they are today by doing just that. Anything negative was swept under the rug, called anti-usa or censored. Nothing new about it.
With propangada for their public as the greatest country in the world while marketing themselves as the land of opportunity. It was obviously exploitation to make the rich people richer. But workers couldn’t be bothered with that as an embarrassed millionaire.
There’s a reason they control most of influential news/social media.
Now, they feel invincible, they’re just riding on propagandah. They feel they don’t need the smartest people driven with brain drain around the world.
These are the same folks that believe that their mother was a SAINT and their kids never did anything wrong at school.
Yeah laugh it up… The fascists have infected most of you’re countries as well. Please learn from our blunders.
Yeah up until 2016 we were just minding our own business invading other countries for oil.
Liberating other countries from their oil!
And the genius of it was that no one (other than the invaded countries) really cared because the US accumulated so much soft power, goodwill and general positive impression. Trump undid in a few months what took generations to build.
Not only did they not care, they joined us. These fucking morons have no understanding of soft power.
Well I mean, we paid them a lot so that it looked like we weren’t just randomly invading Iraq for reasons no one but Cheney seemed able to concieve of.
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Oh its more than one stupid person. American diversion from reality has been in the making for over a decade.
Actually even longer. Fox News was thought up after Nixon’s resignation with the expressed intent of making sure that a conservative politician would never have to face consequences like that again.
Try since WWII at least.
I’d like to think Americas reputation has been down the pan for decades. They’re warmongering, other country meddling, global terrorists at best.
The people can be alright, but the government are no better than the people they tell us to hate.
So they want to cover up the truth that people in the US lobbied the whole world to not to take the Jews in leading to the final solution. Don’t forget providing material support to the Nazi and IBM lending the computer power to make the final solution a reality.
Does it remind you of another genocide taking place that wouldn’t be happening without the support and help from the US government and their corporations?
It is almost like we were never the good guys and WWII was just one fascist nation cleaning up another fascist nation’s mess.
The US didn’t “clean up” in WWII. The red army won that war. The US just pretends it did, like it always fucking does.
Fair enough, the US certainly likes to take credit and then dodge accountability.
I was with you up until the end there.
It is okay, a lot of people cannot accept the truth that the US has been a fascist nation for a long time. Depending on how you interpret the revolutionary war it was always a proto-fascist nation.
According to Umberto Eco’s requirements, the US was Ur-Fascist for quite some time. I tend to agree with that.
Now, however, we’re full on fascist for sure. Also, Holocaust aside, Hitler and his allies were obviously in the wrong. Like you can’t be OK with them occupying half of Europe.
Mm. Well, gonna disagree, but that’s okay! We agree the fascism openly being practiced today is abhorrent and must be obliterated.
You can of course disagree. But I would like to ask your opinion of the US toppling countless democracies to install fascist dictatorships during the Cold War. This is just one of many examples that highlight all is not what it seems.
“Countless” is a bit of a stretch, and really isn’t until the 1900s but yes in general that’s some imperialistic bullshit. Things that were kept from everyone for decades because they wouldn’t have been able to do it if it was out in the open. (Now is a very different time that has taken them decades and trillions of dollars to manufacture.) A closer look at any of those operations will reveal the usual suspects of militarism, racism, and enormous oceans of money. Those persons did not make up the whole of the country, then or now.
Wow, you wrote a lot of words to agree with the person you’re saying you disagree with.
Yeah that’s how discussion works.
Snarky asshole retorts are in the next thread down.
Fair enough and I agree that not all people in the US are wealthy militaristic authoritarian racists (aka fascists). Just those in charge I suppose.
They think if everyone just agrees with them, that in and of itself presents a solution. That’s their schtick. They said they don’t believe the United States is becoming more fascist – I’ll assume because it’s already fully institutionalized. They’ll point out problems and never solutions because they offer nothing of substance. It’s just a child-like mind with access to an LLM. Their post history should reveal everything you need to know.
Last week, through a sad chain of sycophancy, the Holocaust Museum was forced to make the following compromise: “Never again means never again only for Jews.”
The “genocide is bad” thinking is part of the woke mind virus that just hates America and loves abortions.
FYI, the money behind holocaust museum was always meant to promote Zionism, and Zionazi colonialism, apartheid, and genocide and rule over America. They could have just said “Americans under a Democratic Administration.” to better align with US government’s fake partisan view on Zionazi rule.
Just FYI: The Holocaust museum is NOT part of the Smithsonian. They have even more reason to give King Diapers the finger but they’re voluntarily bending the knee.
And I spoken’t, for I ain’t no holocaust museum
