I would’ve figured work starts once you’re ready for work. If that includes showering and you need more time for that, you should come earlier so you can shower.
To me it’s no different from taking the time to shower at home. You can sleep later if you don’t shower but I take the time. No pay for that though.
While I was mostly joking with my comment and the context of having to bike to work in a hot climate.
I agree with you initially, that works starts when you’re ready to work. I think that definition of ready is a little subjective.
As far as I’m concerned the moment I deviate from my normal non-working behavior is when I am starting work.
Realistically I feel that begins at the commute to work for me, I have some personal bias here since I have an hour long commute when I do. I work from home a lot of the time, so again that also skews my perception of when I “start” work.
I would probably not even step outside unless absolutely necessary. At that temperature I would already suffer indoors, and if I stepped out I’d faint if I stayed out there for longer than thirty minutes.
Here in Palestine people drive bikes the most in the hottest city, Jericho. It reaches 40 degrees there. An ebike would make you get less hot from exertion. In combination with good urban planning with small streets and trees and buildings creating lots of shade it’s workable. It’s not sustainable to have air conditioned cars transport people everywhere. This is what living in a hot climate means.
I think even at the smallest company I’ve worked at, there was a shower in the building that people working at the companies there could use. First time I’ve really thought about it, but I guess it would be odd if a place didn’t have at least one shower somewhere for the cyclists and runners. (I’m working in a British city for context)
So let’s build more urban heat islands and parking lots. Exactly what a +40 C environment needs. Biking might be unpleasant in 40 C weather, and the cyclist might get a bit sweaty, but all of the positives are true. And cars are just going to make the planet hotter.
Or underdeveloped infrastructure that forces you to bike on the road. There’s this road near my house thats like a quarter mile long and its 40mph and people usually speed up to 65mph.
Trying to get to work on my bike with that is fucking suicide, and my work is only a mile away.
Even walking is excrutiating. The weather is very cold, which is fine since it’s only a mile, but the busy roads you need to cross make you wait so damn much. Waiting for the signal to walk is about 5 minutes. There are 5 busy crosswalks that turn my 10 minute walk into a 35 minute walk in the freezing fucking cold.
Yeah you could jaywalk but you can be arrested and trying to jaywalk a road with cars going 60 is like Russian roulette.
In most places jaywalking is a civil infraction resulting in only a fine (I can impede traffic and increase potential for injuries). In those places you cant be arrested.
In others you can be arrested then charged with criminal misdemeanor. If very serious (not sure what defines that) you can also get a felony.
Either way it’s punishable, and I don’t want to do that when most of the crosses are within line of sight of the local police station.
About that road Im not really sure why the limit is specifically 40, since roads that cross it are 20, and also that it has no sidewalk but leads to residential areas. You can’t even walk on the grass there’s a bridge that forces you onto the road.
There is another road but it’s half a mile longer (1.1km) and also it has the busiest street near my house. I swear to god the pedestrian walk lights are broken because I sat my freezing ass next to that damn thing for 20 minutes before just jaywalking anyways (also scared cause that roads also a 40mph).
I really wish I could walk, for my health for the environment but ironic as it would be I’m not gonna die for my health lol.
While taking your kid on a 10km detour to the only child care center thats anywhere near your home or work that has availability. And dont forget to swing by the shops and grab milk on the way home.
That’s an urban planning problem. My dad’s detour to drop me off at daycare when I was little was a 10 minute bike ride. When I was old enough to go to school, there was no detour because it was on the way to his work. Shops are also on the way or at most a 5 minute detour.
Sounds like you live in a car dependent city. Imagine if it were built for walking or biking. Everything you need within 15 minutes walking rather than 15 minutes driving. Just try imagining it.
Every time I see this kind of post I just wish they would try to go to work in a +40 degree Celsius environment.
It must be nice to work in a place that won’t mind if you arrive drenched in sweat.
Edit: I love the hive mind
It would be one thing if all employers offered locker rooms and adequate time to get ready along with safe storage.
But doesn’t that depend on you? If you arrive earlier you have more time
I don’t get paid to arrive earlier, so it’s gonna depend on them for me dawg
I would’ve figured work starts once you’re ready for work. If that includes showering and you need more time for that, you should come earlier so you can shower.
To me it’s no different from taking the time to shower at home. You can sleep later if you don’t shower but I take the time. No pay for that though.
While I was mostly joking with my comment and the context of having to bike to work in a hot climate.
I agree with you initially, that works starts when you’re ready to work. I think that definition of ready is a little subjective.
As far as I’m concerned the moment I deviate from my normal non-working behavior is when I am starting work.
Realistically I feel that begins at the commute to work for me, I have some personal bias here since I have an hour long commute when I do. I work from home a lot of the time, so again that also skews my perception of when I “start” work.
Well that sucks.
Figure it out.
Oh I have it figured out.
You probably should do the same.
Excellent👍
There is a way to get all of this and more
coughs nervously in works-from-home
But yeah, it’s more weather dependent for sure
Remote jobs are unironically super good for environment, aside from all other amazing advantages they offer.
BuT WhAt aBoUt cOlLaBoRaTiOn? - some boomer executive somewhere
Honestly, no matter the mode of transportation, I’d arrive drenched in sweat in a 40° environment.
I would probably not even step outside unless absolutely necessary. At that temperature I would already suffer indoors, and if I stepped out I’d faint if I stayed out there for longer than thirty minutes.
Here in Palestine people drive bikes the most in the hottest city, Jericho. It reaches 40 degrees there. An ebike would make you get less hot from exertion. In combination with good urban planning with small streets and trees and buildings creating lots of shade it’s workable. It’s not sustainable to have air conditioned cars transport people everywhere. This is what living in a hot climate means.
But Texas exceptionalism!
Tbf you could just take a shower at workplace after the commute, assuming you have showers at work.
How many people actually have showers in their workplace?
Probably more if cities were designed around bicycles in the way they currently are around cars.
Where I live, more and more. For this specific reason.
+the fact that some other people do Real Work^TM where you get dirty and shit and need to have shower before going home. Factories and shit.
Do factories have showers where you are? We’re expected to shower when we get home
Some factories are required to have at least emergency shower. Not that you want to take shower there regularly.
Well yeah though I don’t to much of that, so the workplaces I know have them because of bikes.
I think even at the smallest company I’ve worked at, there was a shower in the building that people working at the companies there could use. First time I’ve really thought about it, but I guess it would be odd if a place didn’t have at least one shower somewhere for the cyclists and runners. (I’m working in a British city for context)
No idea, every place I’ve worked in at least.
Pretty common to have at least one where I live, but it depends on which sector you work in for sure.
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How many people actually have car storage(called parking spot by some idiot, although there are no trees) in their workplace?
Where do you live that it’s 40+ degrees at ~8am in the morning, the entire year round?
Or could you simply be looking for an excuse?
Australia
Also Brazil
Edit: not to mention the flash-flooding thunderstorms, tree-shattering winds, and so, so many hills.
Most tropical/subtropical areas will have a heat index in this range for the majority of the year thanks to humidity.
I live in Florida and maybe for two months of the year I could cycle around without getting soaked, either by rain or humidity.
I do cycle around for fun though.
Not everyone lives in sunny California, some people live in the perpetual 100% humidity tropical climate.
Also screw second and third shifters, right?
I live in a ‘perpetual 100% humidity tropical climate’. 8am would be 20-22 degrees. Afternoons would be hot though.
So let’s build more urban heat islands and parking lots. Exactly what a +40 C environment needs. Biking might be unpleasant in 40 C weather, and the cyclist might get a bit sweaty, but all of the positives are true. And cars are just going to make the planet hotter.
Or underdeveloped infrastructure that forces you to bike on the road. There’s this road near my house thats like a quarter mile long and its 40mph and people usually speed up to 65mph.
Trying to get to work on my bike with that is fucking suicide, and my work is only a mile away.
Even walking is excrutiating. The weather is very cold, which is fine since it’s only a mile, but the busy roads you need to cross make you wait so damn much. Waiting for the signal to walk is about 5 minutes. There are 5 busy crosswalks that turn my 10 minute walk into a 35 minute walk in the freezing fucking cold.
Yeah you could jaywalk but you can be arrested and trying to jaywalk a road with cars going 60 is like Russian roulette.
How?
So, 60 units of imperialism is about 96 units of true freedom. How the fuck your city allows it?
In most places jaywalking is a civil infraction resulting in only a fine (I can impede traffic and increase potential for injuries). In those places you cant be arrested.
In others you can be arrested then charged with criminal misdemeanor. If very serious (not sure what defines that) you can also get a felony.
Either way it’s punishable, and I don’t want to do that when most of the crosses are within line of sight of the local police station.
About that road Im not really sure why the limit is specifically 40, since roads that cross it are 20, and also that it has no sidewalk but leads to residential areas. You can’t even walk on the grass there’s a bridge that forces you onto the road.
There is another road but it’s half a mile longer (1.1km) and also it has the busiest street near my house. I swear to god the pedestrian walk lights are broken because I sat my freezing ass next to that damn thing for 20 minutes before just jaywalking anyways (also scared cause that roads also a 40mph).
I really wish I could walk, for my health for the environment but ironic as it would be I’m not gonna die for my health lol.
Have you considered, that different places need different infrastructure?
I might also remark, that your houses are utterly unprepared for the -5C where I’m at currently, but that would be stupid.
+40? I wonder why…
While taking your kid on a 10km detour to the only child care center thats anywhere near your home or work that has availability. And dont forget to swing by the shops and grab milk on the way home.
Sounds like a purposeful car dependent design
Well what do you want me to do about it?
That’s an urban planning problem. My dad’s detour to drop me off at daycare when I was little was a 10 minute bike ride. When I was old enough to go to school, there was no detour because it was on the way to his work. Shops are also on the way or at most a 5 minute detour.
Imagine living in ex-USSR country. Daycares everywhere.
Sounds like you live in a car dependent city. Imagine if it were built for walking or biking. Everything you need within 15 minutes walking rather than 15 minutes driving. Just try imagining it.