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If you’re drinking from a lead cup in 2024, that’s on you…
I think it’s a reference to the Stanley cup craze and subsequent tiktok posting about bioavailable lead in damaged ones
From what I can find the Stanley Cup trophy is made from a silver and nickel alloy, so you should be able to drink from it.
From what I can find the Stanley Cup trophy is made from a silver and nickel alloy, so you should be able to drink from it.
Not sure if you missed it, but Stanley (the company) released an insulated drinking cup through Target that was limited edition and caused a minor craze. It’s not the Stanley cup, the NHL championship trophy.
Oh … I see.
Honestly that’s what I thought people were talking about until I saw some news on it.
Man, same. I was so confused
Don’t worry, I also thought people were going crazy over hockey on Tiktok.
I don’t even follow hockey. I just know the South Park episode “Stanley’s Cup”. That is when I learned about the hockey thing. Now it’s a cup? I only know red solo cups.
Imagine an impractically large WW2-era thermos, but with tricked out limited editions a la Supreme. Now preschoolers accessorise with them. Shit’s wild
It’s amazing how these blue collar companies have been able to position themselves at the center of a major cultural phenomenon. Especially since our culture tends to scoff at blue collar interests these days.
woosh
We don’t do that here.
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Notable Events with Stanley in the recent past:
Stanley does the “limited release” (often seen in the fashion industry, think Supreme) marketing thing, creating a bit of hype around their cups.
A woman in TikTok posted a video of how her car burned down, but her Stanley cup survived and there was still ice in it. This video goes viral and the CEO of Stanley does something for the lady. I can’t remember what exactly but I think he bought her a car?
The Target × Stanley collaboration results in fistfights at retail locations over the limited edition colorway.
Since we’re in that late-stage of capitalism, Stanley cups are a hot commodity for resellers and scalpers. Generally, resellers and scalpers try to buy their goods to resell but one lady decided to skip that whole step and just steal like $2000 USD (retail) of Stanley cups.
Ah, so the Leafs have just been protecting themselves from lead poisioning all this time.
That sounds incredibly stupid. What kind of testing was done to suggest this? Surely the FDA would have a thing or two to say about it.
IIRC it’s a part of the vacuum-sealed thermal insulation of the cup, which is covered by stainless steel. So it’s fairly resistant to damage, they do a lifetime warranty, and if the seal is broken, the thermally insulating function of the bottle is compromised anyway. I guess that’s enough for the FDA? Obviously ideally you’d just prefer no lead at all? It was apparently charcoal until 2008.
Ah yeah, I’m seeing people saying it’s the solder joining some internal parts together, so that’s a total non-issue. But still… this is the one place where I wouldn’t defend leaded solder over the leadless alternatives.
Flint, Michigan
The famous King of michigan.
Larry the Benevolent Raccoon Lord
Do you own a lead testing kit? Have you tested everything you drink out of?
I do and I haven’t! But I tested my paint chips… I guess they’re sweet for some other reason :'(
Moral of the story? Invest in clock factories, they ain’t going away anytime soon.
I’m starting to think lead cups may be a good investment if she can drink from one for 200 years.
Why the hell do you drink from a lead cup in 2024?
Yeah, we all know asbestos would make a better insulator for your coffee and whatnot.
“I don’t normally do followup videos on Project Farm, but this is truly incredible! It’s been three days and the coffee in this mug still feels as hot as my lungs!”
Very impressive!
Is it dangerous to consume asbestos? I thought it was an inhalation hazard.
I… I’ve honestly never heard that question before. I imagine it’s not great since the problem is the tiny sharp fibers cutting up your lungs. I’m sure chewing asbestos would make your gums feel spicy.
With some minor research it looks like in general consumption is at least not as dangerous as inhaling it.
Style?
Ah, go on, then.
Stanley Cups apparently contain lead for a seal.
Disclaimer: the solder is at the bottom on the outside, in a place that what you’re drinking can’t reach, so it’s just stupid the reaction that people are having
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/stanley-cup-lead/
Maybe people should start worrying about the solders on their plumbing first…
I won’t debate that, it’s something I saw on Internet Today. Hell due to my lifestyle I’ve never actually seen the cup in real life.
Man, you just reminded me about how much I used to love stealing pieces of solder off the spool in my dad’s office. I loved how I could bend and tear metal with my bare hands like Superman. I loved forming it into a spiral and pretending it was a coin. Then I’d bite and bend it like Underdog. Sometimes I’d just chew on it cuz it was kinda sweet.
One day, my dad got a new kind of solder that didn’t taste as good.
Anyway, it turns out I’m a moron…
Until the plastic falls off and you handle it, wash it, etc.
As for pipes whataboutism, how about we stop introducing new products with lead?
If the bottom falls off I hope you’re intelligent enough to realise that your cup is broken
At this point you should read your own link. From the description of how it works, it doesn’t sound like a critical part at all. It’s part of the plastic flair on the outside. The cup is still perfectly functional and insulating.
I guarantee you’ve used many things after a piece of nonfunctional plastic broke off.
Capitalism
We suffer from that here as well, but no lead cups, I’m afraid.
It’s not that literal. Most of us don’t have a king either.
If that’s a metaphor, I have no clue what for.
A huge number of people are drinking from lead pipes. It’s not a consequential difference from lead cups.
Children are working at all kinds of jobs, not just factories, and the ruling class is pushing to expand child labor.
We don’t have a king, but we have more stratification in class than in the prior eras.
There’s no direct metaphor, but the tweet is showing that the fact pattern can change without conditions improving.
For more info on the lead cup: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/stanley-cup-lead/
Why would they use lead based solder? Oh right, it’s cheaper.
Cheaper, easier to work with, melts at lower temps, flows better, take your pick.
That being said, why they aren’t spot welded is a mystery. I suppose solder is a better connection, but still. Why take the chance?
For the price they charge, they should use higher quality materials.
Agreed.
Looking at the lead from this link someone posted below - that isn’t something you can spot weld. Generally I’d say soldering can create air/liquid tight seals, spot welding can’t.
It’s pretty goold solder too.
On the outside of the cup, at the bottom, under a plastic cover, where what you intend to drink will never reach?
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/stanley-cup-lead/
Who cares?
Maybe people should start worrying about the solders on their plumbing first…
Rubin also noted in her report that the tumbler is specifically meant for cold water — not for hot or acidic beverages like coffee, because of the nickel content of the stainless steel used. Nickel is another metal that can be seriously harmful if ingested, but it takes a lot of time for the metal to actually contaminate food or water. Both heat (from beverages like hot coffee or tea, for instance) and acids (like those found in citrus fruits and soda) can speed that process up. Sticking to plain water removes that risk.
Fascinating.
I usually touch the outside of the cup with my lips when I drink, but I’m weird like that.
Do you touch the bottom of the cup, on the outside, under the plastic cover?
Yeah, maybe with my hands, if the plastic cover falls off cause someone ran it through qn overloaded dishwasher.
Look, can we just not have poison in our drinkware? I don’t feel like that’s an unreasonable request. Someone else mentioned that it’s not intended for hot beverages, and will leech nickel into your coffee if you don’t read the warning labels.
While people are worrying about this, they fill their glasses made of actual glass with water that probably comes from copper pipes with lead solders… Maybe they should start worrying about that first, but who am I to tell?
Stupid is as stupid does. Flint, MI, is still dealing with the fallout of lead in their drinking water.
Maybe Stanley should start putting uranium in their cups, too.
I’m sorry, is glass toxic?
Well, your oops babies have a bright future. 🤦🏼♂️
It’s under a plastic cover at the bottom where no water can enter.
Looks like what should actually be concerning people is the nickel in the inner metal that leeches into hot and acidic drinks. The cups are “designed” for cold drinks only, but people certainly aren’t using them that way.
Wait, I haven’t been following this at all. Are you telling me they made insulated cups that cannot safely hold a hot beverage?
That’s just what the Snopes article said.
It is stupid that they can’t hold hot drinks without leeching nickel into the liquid.
Considering this meme was written from a child’s point of view…
https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/22/health/cupkin-childrens-cups-lead-recall/index.html
Those cups were insanely popular with toddlers back in 2018-2022
I mean I legitimately do understand why you’d be so upset if you really believe nothing has changed in 200 years. Because you’d have to be pretty fucking stupid and that shit hurts.
At this point she’s just voluntarily poisoning herself.
Where do you even buy a lead cup? Plastic is all the rage!
it’s referring to people freaking out theres some lead in the material of water bottles being sold. from the Stanley website tldr is not an issue unless the cup is damaged. It’s not limited to their cups and many other brands do the exact same thing.
That “industry standard” line is pure weasel wording in my view.
But everyone else is using lead too!
She got it back in 1824.
Anti-monarchist vampire confirmed?
Oh, that explains all the drinking, and the lack of concern about lead poisoning. There’s blood in the cup! Probably from the child factory workers.
If she’s been drinking from a lead cup for 200 years, I might start doing it, seems to increase lifespan a lot.
You’re assuming she’s not just gone insane from the lead poisoning.
Sounds like Janel is a vampire.
That is why they chose lead over silver in 1824!
A very bad llama? She’s supposed to be dead!
A stupid vampire at that.
King Charles really is a fucking putz.
Eh? What country has a king and child labour?
The US has child labor (several “red” states that have pushed for younger work ages), and one party is actively working on the King part.
I mean the point of the article is that these are companies violating the law. Child labor is neither legal or common in the US.
In the US you can work when you turn 15 if you get permission from your parents and a school guidance counselor.
15? Apparently, the lowest minimum age is 9, and one state doesn’t have a minimum age. Use the handy little map on this site to find those gems and some other interesting tidbits!
Cambodia does have measurable child labour and a king.
Hmm. What about lead utensils?
Ontario recently legalized high school students dropping out and getting a full time job before graduating.
Was it illegal for people to work before age 18 previously?
Full time jobs that take them out of school, yeah.
Well, if they’re gonna drop out they’ll need some kind of experience to make it in the real world later on. Might as well be work experience, I guess.
Another way to look at it is that they are being given the choice between:
- Finishing school, which they may not enjoy, but will set them up to be at least somewhat employable in the future. And introduces the possibility of further education to become even more employable.
- Getting paid minimum wage, which sounds pretty good when you are living with your parents and aren’t paying for food or rent. But of course is incredibly unstable work and cannot be relied upon to cover living expenses once they’re an adult.
You aren’t wrong by any means. It sucks all around, but at least they’re being given the chance to contribute in some small way even if it isn’t ideal. However, I highly doubt any employer they’ll work for will treat them with the respect and dignity they deserve as human beings regardless of their age or circumstances.
Still, silver linings and all.
What exactly is the silver lining? They’re being given an option which feels like a shortcut, but will ultimately harm their future opportunities. And this is at a point when their brain development and life experience is insufficient for them to make a rational decision. Basically the economic realities may coerce them into mortgaging their chances of future success for a quick buck.
Plus, they aren’t “contributing” to anything except wage suppression. Teenagers are less sensitive to being paid a living wage. This was done by Ontario’s Conservative government as a way to appease the sort of business owner who says “nobody wants to work anymore” while refusing to pay more than starvation wages.
I’m thinking about the sorts of folks that drop out of high school. Better for them to be able to get work experience early on rather than have to leech off their parents for a few years while not being able (or willing) to give anything back.
I’m not saying the situation is ideal by any means, certainly. In an ideal world, every kid would be able to get an awesome education and become amazing contributors to society. We don’t live in that world. We live in a world where people are too poor to afford to drive their kids to school, to afford the lunches they’re being forced to pay for their kids at that school, to afford the supplies they need, etc etc.
If our lawmakers aren’t going to fix larger societal problems, at least these kids can try to make it by, rather than simply being a drain. And yes, I know this law passing is only making things harder to fix in the long run, but at least the kids are allowed to do something that might help ‘em stay off the street or off drugs. Yes, companies are going to exploit them for cheap labor… like they do adults. The issue isn’t just that kids are working, the issue is also that companies are allowed to exploit anyone, regardless of age. That’s a larger issue that will take a lot more effort to fix.
So in the meantime, let the kids at least try if their means prevent a better life otherwise.
Florida is currently trying to roll back child labor laws so children can work construction and roofing
Wasn’t the king crowned last year?
Pretty sure the UK doesn’t have children working in factories.
If your companies make the factories in other countries and hire the children from those countries, your country still has child laborers in factories.
Give it five years. Brexit means Brexit!
Give Jacob Rees-Mogg half a second unsupervised and we will, I’m sure
US has child labor, UK has a king.
I suppose it doesn’t need to be your king, although it is implied.
And they did give an entire town lead poisoning.
Most of the clothing you buy is made by children.
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