Each of these reads like an extremely horny and angry man yelling their basest desires at Pornhub’s search function.

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    Honestly, if the combination of AI porn + good AR + haptic fleshlights gets us to a point where horny single men with limited real-world romantic prospects can have fulfilling sex lives without having to bug any actual living women to attain them, I think the world will be a better place.

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      Yeah, but with the caveat that this will only make the world a better place if society chose to implicitly allow this, and actively chose not to disparage, mock, and exclude those people who want to go this path. Which, based on everything we’ve ever seen about society, is not going to happen.

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        True, but people already do 80% of that - I don’t think the stigma attached to “AI-generated porn that talks to you and responds to your requests” is likely to be meaningfully greater than the stigma attached to regular porn, or to an OnlyFans where you’re doing the same thing with an actual woman but clamoring for her attention with a bunch of other guys.

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          Yea… yea but that’s not what you said. You implicitly said “strapped to AI powered AR with a fleshlight” or some nonsense like that. And then when called out about how that would not work societally - you then default to “there’s no stigma with regular porn”.

          🙄

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            People already do watch AR porn. People already do use interactive fleshlights. People already do talk to and make requests of performers on OnlyFans and lots of other places. None of these things seem to come with much more stigma than regular porn; I don’t think the use of AI changes that.

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              Y’all probably would love this utopia. Socially inept legions of men ostracized from society jacking off in their mothers basement with AR / AI till the end of time.

              Question is why? And why when this article is talking about James Dean?

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                Who are you that are so fast du judge people you barely know? I have a good job, functioning social life and am generally considered a pleasent person to spend time with. Yet i choose to not date. The reasons are quite complex and none of anyones business. Why and how does watching AI porn make me a socially inept person jacking it in some basement? Maybe it is time to get off your high horse and use reason in your arguments instead of emotions and sterotypes.

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                  Your a fucking idiot. I’m on your side. I was responding to a comment saying that that’s a good thing. Perhaps it is for you and that’s fine, jack off in your mother’s basement then for all I give a shit.

                  Normalizing this behavior is not healthy for anyone but I also don’t believe in ostracizing it.

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        Uh, based on the realistic fuck robots that are hitting the market I don’t think you have to worry about society telling you that you can’t have VR sex with a giant hentai squid with massive tits. Just maybe don’t do it in your parents living room this time.

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            I don’t follow at all. When you do sexual activities in a public area you are making other people part of the act, without their consent. Do what you want with consenting people.

            If you don’t want people to kink shame don’t expose them to your kink. I am not knocking on doors telling people what they should or should not do, I am asking not to be part of their activities. The vast majority of people have my attitude towards this.

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              We’re talking about AI porn in this thread. I’m not sure why you’re going off on a rant about exhibitionism, or why you’re doing it here in a reply to my comment.

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                Your comment was in reply to a comment talking about sex robots. Your comment was calling that comment out for being discriminatory against people who use sex robots openly. It was all very easy to follow as an observer. Conversations wander sometimes.

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            I mean it’s just common sense not to do these things in your mother’s living room my guy.

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        I mean… its not like masturbation isnt already mocked and shamed already around the world, its not like thats ever stoped the more perverted ones that have weird kinks. And even if theres legislations against it (which there hasnt been any serious one afak since the middle ages) the wankers are always gonna win, probably because they have more stamina.

        Edit: now im not saying they should be legislated, imho the government has no bussines on ones sex life as long as all parts involved are concenting adults or being solo, just that they always have and probably will be shamed, why? I dont know, but probably religion has something to do there. I wont judge anybody though.

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            True, but my scope was more focused to someone thats gonna treat themselves to a vr suported oppaibot2100, with many features including blah blah blah. You get the drill, the opaibot is getting a diferent drill in another way though.

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          Is it, feels like Gen X and Millenials were fairly sex positive generations that quite happily talked about things like that and porn. Gen Z seem to be scarily sex-negative again, see all their complaints about sex scenes in films as an example.

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      Because what the world needs now is an even more disengaged, disinterested, and misanthropic portion of the population.

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        Meh. If someone wants to opt out they pretty much are going to do it. Besides would you rather deal with them? Imagine if everyone you were around didn’t have a means to entertain themselves at all times. They would be engaged, they would create drama, they would tell other people what they thought of them.

        Sometimes in industrial equipment we put in random alarms to be triggered so the people who are supposed to stand there have to do something vs wandering around causing trouble. Especially in union plants.

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        Well, to rule out the “misanthropic” part one doesn’t really need to have a fulfilling sex life, just meet a few people (suppose, women) who’d make them like humanity again.

        About disengaged and disinterested - it’s more about engagement and interest being hard.

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        These men used to gather on the streets and start breaking shit and kicking grannies back in the day to express their frustration. Them withdrawing to their moms basements smoking weed and jerking off to porn might not be ideal but perhaps not the worst thing either. That’s why we don’t see a significant uptick in crime despite the ever increasing amount of such men.

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        Yeah let’s just give young men sex robots and make them even more detached from community and relationships

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          I do kind of wonder what the end-game is in terms of fertility rates in society if we can manufacture ever-more-perfect simulations of sex.

          The Amish might still be around, but…

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        Some might think so.

        I remember a guy on reddit a few years ago arguing vehemently that their hand was better than an actual living woman’s vagina, to say nothing of a Fleshlight.

        The denial was strong in that individual’s case, but if enough incels are already in that deep it’s probably gonna be enough for many of them.

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      Except instead they will treat ai girls as filthy as they want and then expect all women to act like that. Then not understand why they don’t… yeah pretty sure that’s what’s going to happen.

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          No it’s much more like the way porn already messes up a lot of men’s perception of women and sex

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        Makes sense. I grew up playing videogames where I would shot stuff that was in my way. That is why in real life I use a gun to get thru traffic. I also played a game for a while where I rode on the back of a lizard and ate mushrooms to grow larger. Which is pretty much my typical weekday.

        For you see I have not hit the level of mental development of most 3 year olds and can not separate our playtime from the real world. Just like the hypothetical people in your example.

        Now if you excuse me I plan to make bricks vanish by arranging them in a straight line wall-to-wall in my house.

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        Without question. The ability to have sex with something isn’t going to prevent them from being socially dysfunctional and would, if anything, make it noticeably worse. You’re getting off, but you still have issues talking to the other sex. They’re just easier to avoid addressing now and your dolls don’t demand basic respect.

        I don’t think I’d come out too much against it, personally. People got biological imperatives, I’m not gonna protest against dildos. But the financial and mental health crises both remain and can’t be circumvented like that.

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          I’m already having the mental health crisis, would be nice to have the immersive VR porn to go with it tbh. People in this thread are mostly talking about incels but, like, there’s many men with horrible social issues who are self aware. I don’t have a relationship, I think I would be a terrible partner and me being single is for the best. I still am lonely sometimes, but accepting it and moving on helps a lot. It still would be nice to have something like this because I would be able to have some companionship without having to be in someone else’s life.

          Before anyone tells me to go to therapy, I had a few sessions and then my therapist went on long term sick leave and I don’t think I have the strength to try again. It hurts less to just accept and live with my problems.

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          You’re getting off, but you still have issues talking to the other sex.

          You just described Japan

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        Why would being sexually fulfilled make men more shitty to women? Perhaps aloof, but that is different from hateful.

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          Because they will get frustrated when they realize real women are not exactly like their perfect, idealized AI counterparts, that they have their own individual personalities, and are not beholden to their men like an AI girlfriend would.

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              “Real” women are already and have been rocking instagram filters or photoshop for a while now. Deception isn’t limited to AI. Should breast implants be banned too?

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                I didn’t say it should be banned, we’re just talking about the problems it might cause.

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            I downvoted not because (as the top reply says) this is how it happens already, but because healthy communication is a cornerstone in every healthy relationship.

            Your argument that men are unable to separate the fabricated from reality is insulting,

            I do not dismiss we are barely out of the dark ages, but (mostly) we aren’t cave men.

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              I wasn’t generalizing that men can’t separate the fabricated from reality. I’m saying the fringe and extreme side of the people who would indulge in tech like that would. There are already incels who are like that to women with just the existence of 2D girls. You think it will change for the better if they upgrade to a 3D version complete with physical devices and haptic feedback? Sure maybe, if they keep to their own world. But these people are also online and interact with real human beings too. Obviously the level-headed people won’t be that way, even with the existence and use of those kind of devices. Don’t generalize.

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            The whole point is the robot will be satisfying to the point of not pursuing women.

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              I agree, but as I also mentioned in another reply - those people will eventually interact with real human beings one way or another. It’s not about them pursuing women, but how they will treat them in real life. Of course it won’t be everyone, most people will be able to keep that to themselves, but there will always be the fringe end of the spectrum that can’t help themselves.

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                Im not sure what your saying, that some people will always suck at dealing with others?

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        I’d push back on that and say that’s fear mongering. The scenario you’re describing MAY occur IF “they” don’t witness social interactions with IRL girls at all, and that includes video/virtual meetups, video recordings of IRL girls interacting etc.

        “They” would have to have never seen a female person in any media other than their AI sexbots, which I find incredibly unlikely that this could become the norm.

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        Yeah, it’s a great idea, if these people don’t, like, interact with the world writ large

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        I’m cool with this, we need a lot fewer humans anyway and particularly so in countries rich enough for people to be able to afford VR sex rigs.

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          Impacting the plebeian workforce in a way that’s felt even harder than today’s inability to afford kids? Yeah, this is gonna be mocked and regulated out of existence for sure.

          It’ll look like moral reasoning, but the fewer workers exist, the more bargaining power all of them have against the rich. See the scarcity of laborers during the black plague triggering the end of feudalism.

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            Yes, and also: The labour market is a market, meaning if there is fewer workers available, then “prices” (payment) go up.

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          It will already start dropping in our lifetime without any way to reverse it. Even African fertility rates are dropping

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            “People in rich, heavily resource-consuming countries should have fewer babies” is a hellscape take now? Have you read literally any news article this summer?

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      The psychological ramifications of that are immense. It would destroy people. It would be no different than any other drug.

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        I don’t see how. It is just porn but more specific. You could get the same results before this but with a tiny bit more work. It should have as much impact on humanity as did on-demand streaming did. On the individual level this could maybe put an end to all the not-so-ethically produced porn.

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      Welp we all know you’re eating steak in the Matrix.

      AI porn is interesting for its extreme detail in systems that were not quite designed for it, and what has been achieved with extremely small model sizes. Like a typical chat model of what seems like an equivalent quality as far as accurate detail comprehension is two to three times larger. It is hard to objectively compare these two, but this is my intuitive/highly speculative opinion.

      That said, in is hilarious how much some model checkpoints can troll someone. Let’s just say, after my casual experiments to explore how LoRAs and other modifications and enhancements work, there would be many PTSD experiences for anyone that tries this. You might just find yourself reorienting your preferences every time you blink.

      Also, if the option is available, you run the serious risk of it becoming an alternative lifestyle, especially amongst those that pursue an academic path and must stay free from distraction. If this is experienced at a younger age, it may remain as a permanent choice. It objectifies relationships and that may prove difficult to change.

      I think you will find the only barrier to relationships is really the person in question’s state of mind and willingness to put in effort. If a skateboard has aspirations to board a hundred million dollar super yacht, that’s a mental health issue. However, outside of mismanaged birth policies where the sexes are disproportionately represented, I’m a strong believer that there is a skateboard for every skateboard, and at least a dock and dingy for every super yacht.

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      The complete opposite is true. That would be a death of dispar filled distopia. Do we not have enough virgins jacking to internet porn all day with crippling depression.

      People need relationships not better internet porn

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    I’m unconvinced by this attempt to create a moral panic. IMO nothing here is shocking or offensive once I remember that people could already use their imaginations to picture celebrities naked.

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      The main issue of this would be public defamation, i.e. wrongfully portraying someone as porn actor which might destroy their career. You cant really do that with written or drawn fiction.

      But for that the pictures would have to be photorealistic, which is not the case just yet. But the tech is going to improve plus the generated images could be further manipulated (i.e. add blur/noise to the image to make it look like a bad phone picture).

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        Once the ability to make photo-realistic images like that becomes commonplace, those images won’t be evidence of anything anymore. Now I can tell you a story about how I had sex with a celebrity, and you won’t believe me because you know I easily could have made it all up. In the future I will be able to show you a 100% realistic video of me having sex with a celebrity, and you won’t believe me because you’ll know that I easily could have made it all up.

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          The obvious thing is that at some point any camera worth it’s salt will have a nice embedded key that it signs it’s output traceable to a vendor’s CA at the least. No signature, the image would be considered fake.

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            Yeah, I think that there may be something like that – the ability to prove things with a camera is useful – but it’s gonna be more-complicated than just that. It’s consumer hardware. If you just do that, someone is gonna figure out how to extract the keys on at least one model and then you can forge authenticated images with it.

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            As a programmer, I gotta say, that’s probably not technically feasible in a sensible way.

            Every camera has got to have an embedded key, and if any one of them leaks, the system becomes worthless.

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              No, that would actually be feasible with enough effort.

              The real question is what do you do if someone takes a screenshot of that image? Since the picture must be in a format that can be shown, nothing is stopping people from writing software that just strips the authentication from the camera file.

              Edit: misread the problem. You need to get a private key to make forgeries and be able to say “no look, this was taken with a camera”. Stripping the signature from photographs is the opposite of what we want here.

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                The point is, without the signature then there’s plausible deniability that it wasn’t real. If you want to prove something happened, then it should have a signature and be validated.

                If someone is showing off a screenshot of an image then in the future (now really) one probably needs to assume it’s fake unless there’s some overriding proof otherwise.

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          It will kill celebrity rather than be a constant issue about stealing images.

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      I kind of get what you’re saying, but it’s also definitely not the same as imagination. It’s vivid, almost real, shareable, and permanent. Imagine if someone generated an AI image of you doing something you consider embarrassing or compromising and sent it to your coworkers or family.

      That said, I don’t think there’s much to be done about it. This isn’t containable.

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        To be fair, if compared to imagining something, sharing something like that with one’s family would be similar to spreading rumors verbally, leading to others imagining the same thing. Which while certainly something that happens, is also behavior we already recognize as extremely rude, sometimes illegally so

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      The difference is that the images AIs spit out are, well, real. Imagining someone naked doesn’t produce a potentially very convincing actual image that can be shared.

      I do think that AI can’t really be effectively regulated (my fucking laptop can run Stable Diffusion), but that doesn’t mean that there’s no need for a debate.

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      already use their imaginations to picture celebrities naked.

      Speak for yourself. Some of us can’t do that.

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    This is not a troll: zoom in on the feet of the yellow dress image. It’s hilariously bad.

    Oh no, the realism, it’s just too much! 🤡

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    So I checked and nobody has put AI porn of me up for sale, yet. What the fuck, guys? Am I not desirable enough for you!?

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    Maybe we do live in the best possible world. Wow wouldn’t it be great to get rid of this industry so you can consume porn while knowing that there is zero percent chance this wasn’t made without their consent?

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      Isn’t the main problem with those models how you can create porn of everyone without their consent with those tools, too?

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        Sex trafficking vs virtual photoshop of your face…

        Nothing new, and it’s a huge improvement over the current status quo. Not everything needs to be a perfect solution

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        Yeah so what. It’s not as if somebody is “sold on the market” because there’s a nude picture of them. Photoshop is not a real threat to society. We gotta stop making moral imaginations more important than physical things.

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        I just retained an LLM on your comment you put on the public internet. You feel violated enough to equate it to physical violation?

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          Why would I? Folks who have had real nudes of them posted on the Internet haven’t felt “physical violation” but they’ve certainly been violated.

          If you had photos of me and trained a porn generating LLM on my photos and shared porn of me, in an identifiable way, I would consider that violation.

          But simply taking my words in that simple sentence isn’t identifiable, unique, or revealing. So no.

          Further, the original point was about the ethics of AI porn. You can’t get something from nothing.

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          How would you respond to photo realistic porn that looks like your mother, daughter, [insert person you care about here] especially if they found it distressing?

          How would you feel if it was posted on facebook? How would you feel if they had to deal with it at work? From coworkers? From clients?

          We are entering uncharted waters. You know why this is different than training a model on text, and your reply to @GBU_28@lemm.ee is hostile and doesn’t acknowledge why people would be upset about AI porn featuring their likeness.

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            you are answering a question with a different question. LLMs don’t make pictures of your mom. And this particular question?. One that has roughly existed since Photoshop existed.

            It just gets easier every year. It was already easy. You could already pay someone 15 bucks on Fiver to do all of that, for years now.

            Nothing really new here.

            The technology is also easy. Matrix math. About as easy to ban as mp3 downloads. Never stopped anyone. It’s progress. You are a medieval knight asking to put gunpowder back into the box, but it’s clear it cannot be put back - it is already illegal to make non consensual imagery just as it is illegal to copy books. And yet printers exist and photocopiers exist.

            Let me be very clear - accepting the reality that the technology is out there, it’s basic, easy to replicate and on a million computers now is not disrespectful to victims of no consensual imagery.

            You may not want to hear it, but just like with encryption, the only other choice society has is full surveillance of every computer to prevent people from doing “bad things”. everything you complain about is already illegal and has already been possible - it just gets cheaper every year. What you want to have protection from is technological progress because society sucks at dealing with the consequences of it.

            To be perfectly blunt, you don’t need to train any generative AI model for powerful deepfakes. You can use technology like Roop and Controlnet to synthesize any face on any image from a singe photograph. Training not necessary.

            When you look at it that way, what point is there to try to legislate training with these arguments? None.

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              I’m not making an argument to ban it. I’m just pointing out you’re pretending a model from text someone wrote is similar to a model that makes nonconcentual porn.

              I don’t think it can be banned, it’s just something they will need to encorperate into revenge porn laws, if it isn’t already covered.

              I’m just pointing out your comment sucked.

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                It’s already covered under those laws. So what are you doing that’s different from ChatGPT hallucinating here ?

                Those laws don’t spell out the tools (photoshop); they hinge on reproducing likeness.

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                  Oh good, someone who has read every revenge porn law, ever. I’m glad they work exactly the same, in every nation and state.

                  Anyway, I must be hallucinating, true, because it seems you keep attacking what I’m saying, instead of defending the comment you made earlier that I took issue with, the one that points out you’re being needlessly hostile.

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            I can do this right now with photoshop dude what are you talking about. This just points to the need for more revenge porn laws.

            We don’t have to sit in the fire when we can crawl out. Are we still on fire? Yeah. Can we do something about that? Yeah!

            It seems like so many people these days want perfect solutions but the reality is that sometimes we have to make incremental solutions to erase the problem as much as we can.

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              And incidentally, this need for revenge porn laws is also a symptomatic issue with a separate cause. Technology always moved forward and with no relation to social advancement, where there is also no realistic “Genie being forced back in the bottle” scenario either.

              That being said, easier access to more powerful technology with lackluster recognition of personal responsibility doesn’t exactly bring happy prospects. lol…

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            Revenge porn/blackmail/exploitation will hopefully become much less obscene, not to the “let’s not prosecute this” levels, but maybe people can stop living in fear of their lives being ruined by malicious actors (unless that’s your kink, you do you).

            It will take/drive/demand a massive cultural shift, but if you asked me which world I would rather live in, and the options are one where people are abused and exploited, or one where people can visualize their perversions more easily (but content creators have a harder time making a living) I’ll take the second. Though I may have straw-manned a bit, it’s not something I’ve thought of outside of this forum thread.

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            I wouldn’t be happy about it but me not being happy about something doesn’t mean I just get an override.

            I think the boat has sailed a bit on this one. You can’t really copyright your own image and even if you were some famous person who is willing to do this and fight the legal battles you still have to go up against the fact that no one is making money off of it. You might be able to get a news source to take down that picture of you but it is another thing to make it so the camera company can’t even record you.

            But hey I was saying for years that we need to change the laws forbidding photography of people and property without consent and everyone yelled at me that they have the right to use a telescoping lense to view whomever they wanted blocks away.

            The creeps have inherited the earth.

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          Are you actually asking?

          The jist is that LLM find similar “chunks” out content from their training set, and assemble a response based on this similarity score (similar to your prompt request).

          They know nothing they haven’t seen before, and the nicely of them is they create new things from parts of their training data.

          Obviously they are very impressive tools but the concern is you can easily take a model that’s designed for porn, feed it pictures of someone you want to shame, and have it generate lifelike porn of a non porn actor.

          That, and the line around “ethical” AI porn is blurry.

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            They know nothing they haven’t seen before

            Strictly speaking, you arguably don’t either. Your knowledge of the world is based on your past experiences.

            You do have more-sophisticated models than current generative AIs do, though, to construct things out of aspects of the world that you have experienced before.

            The current crop are effectively more-sophisticated than simply pasting together content – try making an image and then adding “blue hair” or something, and you can get the same hair, but recolored. And they ability to replicate artistic styles is based on commonalities in seen works, but you don’t wind up seeing chunks of material just done by that artist.

            Like, you have a concept of relative characteristics, and the current generative AIs do not. You can tell a human artist “make those breasts bigger”, and they can extrapolate from a model built on things they’ve seen before. The current crop of generative AIs cannot. But I expect that the first bigger-breast generative AI is going to attract users, based on a lot of what generative AIs are being used for now.

            There is also, as I understand it, some understanding of depth in images in some existing systems, but the current generative AIs don’t have a full 3d model of what they are rendering.

            But they’ll get more-sophisticated.

            I would imagine that there will be a combination of techniques. LLMs may be used, but I doubt that they will be pure LLMs.

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          Ok, you know it’s trained on existing imagery right?

          Sure the net new photos aren’t net new abuses, but whatever abuses went into the training set are literally represented in the product.

          To be clear I’m not fully porn shaming here, but I wanted to clarify that these tools are informed from something already existing and cant be fully separated from the training data.

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    Ethics of AI porn aside, can we talk about the Pornhub search function and how shit it is?

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        Arguably a good application for AI image-to-prompt functionality, I suppose.

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      The trick is finding your preferred channels and just browsing those. I have a handful of channels I will happily browse for myself and a couple of channels for me and my wife to browse together.

      Searching hasn’t really been worth anything for quite a while. I’m more likely to find something I like by clicking a previous video that was enjoyed and scrolling through the related ones.

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    I’ll just leave this here:

    Automatic1111, depthmap script, image to image, click Left-right stereogram for vr or red-blue if you have old 3d glasses.

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    Ha, the image description just says “An AI-generated woman found on CivitAI” even though that’s clearly the character Power from Chainsaw Man.

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      It’s clearly Barack Obama from the classical motion picture, Sharknado 4.

      It’s like we’re looking at two completely different images.

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    They’re also creating a lot of images of maid uniforms wearing human faces making ahegao faces while standing on massive erect penis legs.

    They post the eight images that wasn’t some body horror fever dream.

    There’s a lot of human work that goes into (and has gone into) AI art generation. It’s just very obscured with just the final product.

    Remember creepy people use AI. That’s also why a lot of AI stuff is or seems creepy.

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      They’re also creating a lot of images of maid uniforms wearing human faces making ahegao faces while standing on massive erect penis legs.

      Finally there is porn for me

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    Like I’ve been saying for years, AI doesn’t need to be sentient to royally fuck society. Just needs to be good enough to mimic you and ruin your life or take your job.

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      or take your job.

      The unemployment line there makes for quite the mental image.

      The “Erect Horse Penis - Concept LoRA,” an image generating AI model that instantly produces images of women with erect horse penises as their genitalia, has been downloaded 16,000 times, and has an average score of five out of five stars, despite criticism from users.

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      AI can have my job. It’s eyes will hurt within a week and it will be taking mental health days.

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        I’d love to give AI my job, but then I’d be homeless.

        I should clarify that I’m not against AI as a technology. I’m against it making me poor

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            AI will also solve the housing affordability crisis too so you won’t need to worry about that…right?!?

            I mean, realistically, I do expect someone to put together a viable robotic house-construction robot at some point.

            https://www.homelight.com/blog/buyer-how-much-does-it-cost-to-build-a-house/

            A rough breakdown of the overall costs of building a home will look like this:

            Labor: 40%

            Also, I’d bet that it cuts into materials cost, because you don’t need to provide the material in a form convenient for a human to handle.

            I’ve seen people creating habitations with large-scale 3d printers, but that’s not really a practical solution. It’s just mechanically-simple, so easier to make the robot.

            I don’t know if it needs to use what we’d think of as AI today to do that. Maybe it will, if that’s a way to solve some problems conveniently. But I do think that automating house construction will happen at some point in time.