• DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe
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            The not-shitheads of the world really need to start organizing these things, instead of relying on kind strangers keeping their notes.

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              Meh. See how they didn’t reply back? They are arguing in bad faith, they don’t want/care about citations

              they just want you to either waste your time (so they can ignore you) or say something like “you can google it yourself” so they can say “see, you got nothing”

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            I only saw admissions about what is already publicly known. Yes he hired women and did pornography. This is morally wrong and destructive to society.

            The rape and trafficking charges are hoaxes because Tate is a prominent figure against the establishment.

            Bill Gates is on the Epstein list and his wife left him over the issue yet… No investigation.

            To quote George Carlin, “Its a big club, and you ain’t in it.” Not only am I completely confident he did nothing wrong. They would have buried him under the prison if they had any real dirt. I also know it is political persecution.

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              damn, we get a twofer!

              1. he diden’t do it
              2. it was fine because other people do bad stuff

              sounds like every other denier of stuff they know to be true

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                1. Obvious political persecution. I don’t have to like him or agree with what he says.
                2. He admitted to doing porn with women and making money. Never admitted to “rape” or “trafficking” because it didn’t happen.

                They put him under a microscope, had to bribe women to turn on him, and even then couldn’t get anything.

                https://twitter.com/Cobratate/status/1784293077324087364

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                  Obvious political persecution.

                  what political stances is he being persecuted for? Then again, WW2 was “Obvious political persecution.” and I don’t see anyone having issues with offing the Nazis, I mean it was literally targeted at a political party!

                  He admitted to doing porn with women and making money. Never admitted to “rape” or “trafficking” because it didn’t happen

                  look, I get it, English wasn’t part of your Hustlers’ university degree, but the man said it himself

                  quite frankly, the man is evil, and it isn’t inherently wrong to get rid of shit stains like him

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              The literal first link that other persons shared opens with Tate saying:

              “I’ve committed federal crimes, can you get me no jail time”

              This is paraphrased of him discussing looking for lawyers.

              You can’t get a better source than the horse my guy.

              So what are your thoughts now?

              I’m not trying to shame you here. Just help you find a better role model.

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                role model

                One can recognize an obvious political persecution regardless whether or not they like a person.

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                    It’s not a bot. I’ve seen them comment on image based posts and can get the context correct.

                    I don’t feel it’s a troll, I feel they’re really just in deep.

                    I find it fascinating, and I like to think in self-aware enough to know I could be in deep in other things. I took the approach here to be understanding and try to point out some fallacies.

                    In hindsight I should have picked up on there against the establishment line and pointed out some more suitable figures that are fighting the status quo who aren’t also predators.

                    I don’t believe we can’t help people rethink something they’re so invested in without being kind to an extent. It can be difficult to admit you’re wrong at times, imagine admitting everything you have pinned your identity on is wrong or your idol or person you looked up to was a scumbag. The duality of people I guess.

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                  No. If someone is guilty of these crimes. Then charge them. Whether you’re my idol or not.

                  I don’t have double standards for people of my tribe or people I like more.

                  Edit: to be abundantly clear. The vast majority of the world isn’t aware of his existence. Therefore there isn’t much reason to silence him. I know at times it can seem like the things we are into are bigger than they are, but they really are at times. Take Lemmy, not many people I know irl has heard of it, but it’s a large part of my life. As someone with ADHD this becomes abundantly clear when you unload all you’ve learned about something to someone and you’re met with ah nice.

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          Citation needed.

          I’ll take your silence after the citations were posted to be an admission that you were 100% wrong about this