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    I’m looking forward to the “how to hack your Tesla to 100% operational functionality using a raspberry pi 9 and this dongle, run your car with your phone!” youtube videos (or whatever streaming service steps over its flaming corpse to replace) it in the next few decades

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      People have already been jailbreaking Teslas to unlock full self-driving, which is a $10k software patch.

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          No it has always been an additional purchase. The only “self driving” mode that’s included by default is their “auto pilot”, which is just TACC with better lane assist so it can take sharper bends in the road without “bouncing” between the lines like most other cars do with lane assist.

          Most people seem to incorrectly think that autopilot and FSD are the same thing, but they are not.

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              Welcome to the tech early adopter world.

              I for one are very happy that there are so many suckers brave bleeding edge tech adopters willing to spend the money and endure the amateur-hour technology put together with spit-and-chewing-gum so that the rest of us get to enjoy the handful of trully useful stuff that survives to become mature products.

              Somebody has to be the cannon-fodder in battling all the fraud and bullshit of present day “Tech” “innovations”, and I for one am glad there are so many volunteers.

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              I mean, that’s not really unique to Tesla customers in any way. Lots of people like to be early adopters of new things, tech more than other things I believe. More often than it’s not very good when they buy in to it.

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              That seems to be region specific then, because I just checked and autopilot is still included by default where i live (northern Europe). Only enhanced autopilot and FSD are additional purchases here.

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                Apparently I’m lying twice over then. You’re probably right about autopilot vs “enhanced autopilot” but I just looked at the order page and only fed is extra cost. It’s also much cheaper than it would have been when I got my Tesla.

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          There is no such thing as “self driving”. It’s literally just a blatant marketing lie. Tesla has:

          • “Autopilot” - comes as standard on all vehicles, most other OEMs refer to this as “advanced cruise control” as all it does it maintain speed and keep you in your lane.
          • “Advanced Autopilot” - adds things like automatic lane changes, summon)
          • “Full Self Driving” - more commonly referred to as “FSD”, the most advanced option with all available features.

          Prices for these vary but the latter 2 are both several thousand dollars.

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          Aside from cosmetic upgrades, all Teslas are essentially the same, just with certain features disabled/pay walled. So your base model 3 has the exact same battery as the top of the line version because it is cheaper to manufacturer them all that way.

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              That’s correct, there are some respected engineering channels that specifically mention this is why different models of the same EV require different charging behavior per the manufacturer’s manual. The battery compositions are different and have different densities and characteristics.

              Edit: although it’s possible some models could share the exact same battery model and have some software restriction in place.

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              You’re both right, some teslas were sold with their battery software limited. And able to be unlocked via DLC.

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          No it has always been an additional purchase. The only “self driving” mode that’s included by default is their “auto pilot”, which is just TACC with better lane assist so it can take sharper bends in the road without “bouncing” between the lines like most other cars do with lane assist.

          Most people seem to incorrectly think that autopilot and FSD are the same thing, but they are not.

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            Most people tend to incorrectly think

            I mean, Musk and Tesla oversold and mismarketed the feature. Don’t blame the consumer here.

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              They distinctly labeled them with names that are not even remotely close in wording, one even with a very clear and precise name of the intended feature set (FSD). I can’t really see how people can think they’re the same TBH, especially considering the clear distinction between the two on their website.

              I 100% agree the feature set of FSD is false marketing and wildy misleading as it’s currently not even close to delivering anything beyond level 2 autonomy, and hasn’t for the past decade since they announced it was “ready end of year”, albeit still more capable than the auto pilot feature (at least in the closed beta).

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                Yes, I can’t see why people would hear ‘Autopilot’ and think it had anything at all to do with full self driving.

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                  Why would they when the website specifically and quite clearly distinguishes the two…only a person that makes no effort to understand what they’re talking about would get confused and continue to spread false information.

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                    Have you ever talked to other people before? What you discovered is pretty common, unfortunately.

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        You can connect it to the Tesla’s battery and it will drain them more in 5 minutes of operation that driving the car for 200 miles does, but at least it will be able to run a full LLM and render billions of triangles with full raytracing at 200 fps on a 4K display.

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      I’ve been waiting years for Tesla hacks to add power or remove Autopilot or remove software-locked batteries or unlock paid features. Haven’t seen it anywhere.

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        I’ve been waiting years for Tesla hacks to add power or remove Autopilot or remove software-locked batteries or unlock paid features.

        It’s unlikely to happen while Musk can still afford to throw lawyers at them and sue them into oblivion.

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      That should be a thing - some place where all the connectors from various parts are marked and you can just remove the Tesla brain and put an RPi in place.

      But I don’t think it is =\