From a practical sense, ActivityPub may be the obvious choice as it gives easier interop with the largest federated platforms.

But what else? There are existing platforms built on these protocols, such as movim for xmpp, and another for matrix I forget.

From a technical standpoint, are there any major pros and cons?

  • poVoq@slrpnk.netEnglish
    7·
    2 months ago

    I think XMPP is a nice supplement to ActivityPub instances for more private chat. You can quite easily hook the user database of Mastodon or Lemmy to an XMPP server and have the same user address work for both that way.

    • matcha_addict@lemy.lolOPEnglish
      3·
      2 months ago

      I would even say XMPP would be a better underlying communication protocol under ActivityPub, as it specs many aspects that ActivityPub does not.

      • poVoq@slrpnk.netEnglish
        5·
        2 months ago

        XMPP via its pubsub implementation could function similar to ActivityPub, but that part of XMPP is a bit neglected as few apps use it for anything more complex. XMPP’s real strength is in real-time communication and I think it’s good to stick with that.

        • matcha_addict@lemy.lolOPEnglish
          1·
          2 months ago

          Is it really neglected though? There are dedicated extensions for it, and movim.eu uses it without issues.

          XMPP’s real strength is in real-time communication

          It’s an extensible communication protocol and has been extended to many use cases, and has a good track record of performing well and handling extensions well. I’d argue this makes it a better candidate than activityPub.

          In a parallel universe, we may have had less federation issues had we gone xmpp!

  • Kairos@lemmy.todayEnglish
    5·
    3 months ago

    Matrix is too hefty. XMPP is stateless sort of. ActivityPub just works.

    • matcha_addict@lemy.lolOPEnglish
      3·
      3 months ago

      From my understanding developers often complain about activityPub. Can we really say that it “just works”? Federation and interop issues are common as well.

        • matcha_addict@lemy.lolOPEnglish
          6·
          3 months ago

          It may seem so due to its success, but I’d argue its success was more tied to luck and timing than technical superiority.

          Mastodon was growing and “new” during the period of the decline of social media, and specifically during several moments of Twitter having issues with moderation, and later on acquisition by musk.

          Similarly to lemmy, the Reddit third party API fiasco.

          I don’t think this means that it works better than anything else. It was just the most obvious choice to users at the time.

  • Handles@leminal.spaceEnglish
    3·
    3 months ago

    another for matrix I forget

    If you or anybody else reading should remember the project, I’d be interested in hearing more.

    Edit: If it’s this one you’re forgiven for not committing the name to memory…