Doesn’t “so hungry they eat cats” indicate the failures of the food safety net and the suffering of the immigrants? I don’t get why this story would make anyone with an ounce of empathy less sympathetic to immigrants instead of more sympathetic.
Do you really think they’re talking about Haitians? If you see someone stealing and eating a pet, how do you know they’re Haitian? Even if you hear an accent. Maybe they’re from another island in the Caribbean.
I mean it is literally about Haitians though, as the city of Springfield Ohio already had been incentivizing cheap import labor to take over for the American labor that had left and wouldn’t work for low wages.
Literally, a guaranteed work status and easy entry because of destabilizing forces in Haiti has meant a huge influx to the point that now more than 1 in 4 residents in Springfield are in fact Haitian.
It doesn’t mean that outlandish stories to create fear and tension are a good idea but just casually changing the details to say it’s about black people is you also trying to push a narrative on a struggling city with many real issues that are its own.
This all started with a couple of pictures of black people with dead animals. Those people were called Haitian whether they were or not because it’s easier to get away with that.
You cannot tell someone is Haitian just by looking at them.
No it started with a hodunk town being stressed by its changing landscape that is putting stress on its local residents and the Haitians that are moving there creating a powder keg of stressed resources like housing, traffic and jobs, being used as a political tool.
I understand that people are using this to use to point at generalized black people and racism (just look at you) but there is a legitimate story and starting seed for this that starts before the pandering that is happening now.
Problems can exist before you see the smoke and the problem is not the smoke but the potential fire that somehow does seem to be ignored by everyone who’d rather talk around it.
No, Trump and Vance and their surrogates are doing generalized racism. You’re just not hearing the blatant dog whistles.
And I couldn’t care less what a bunch of assholes in Aurora think about legal immigrants in their community takin’ the jerbs and daring to open Haitian food restaurants. I really couldn’t care less.
I am seeing it. I’m just not ignoring that there is in fact an interesting base for all this in order to focus on the part the racists without policy are using to push their agenda and that the liberals are ignoring cause it’s complicated and easier to focus on the racists attempt to use to belittle them without doing anything.
It really is a scathing indictment of our country that, even if the allegations were true (they aren’t), the proposed solution to the problem Republicans have offered up is to deport all of the people back to their home country rather than just… I dunno. Making sure they have other means of feeding themselves.
Mass media manipulation, constant class war, a legacy of ultrapatriotism, and crippled education has turned us into a nation of people arrogant in their own ignorance and fed up with how shit the world is today.
Mass media keeps us all at each other’s throats, stirring up hate and violence for views, and those media owners are almost all old conservative white men who will gladly court fascism for lower taxes.
What we perceive as food safety net failures is just another active weapon in the class war.
Everyone will wring their hands and say ‘What can we do it’s the economy!’ when it is rich people actively trying to erase who they consider as undesirable.
This is actually incorrect and European nobility showed the template.
Do you know who served in the houses of the truly powerful? The children of the slightly less powerful. For example, the Groom of the Stool, charged with wiping the king’s ass amongst other toiletry things, was a position hotly contested by noble families of all levels.
Once they wipe out the poverty class, their servants will be what remains of the middle class, who will be desperate to maintain their lifestyle.
It isn’t spoken of out loud but among the ultra wealthy, having an all white staff is considered a mark of social status. And once those disenfranchised middle class families bend the knee, their uncertain future is resolved and we have reinvented feudalism.
Yeah Vietnamese people ate dogs, cats, rats,etc. But not in the US. In Vietnam, during the war. Only because the war caused food scarcity.
An old Vietnamese man explained to me they didn’t kill their pets. But if their pet died, they would give it to their neighbours to eat, and their neighbours would do the same if their pet died. Because no matter how hungry they got, they wouldn’t want to eat their own dog.
Both sad and strangely heartwarming. I wonder if this is where these stories originated from.
you could look at it as they aren’t hungry, but like the taste of cat. let’s be honest, Americans don’t know much about other countries, many have never left their own states. so they don’t know if they eat cats there or not.
Doesn’t “so hungry they eat cats” indicate the failures of the food safety net and the suffering of the immigrants? I don’t get why this story would make anyone with an ounce of empathy less sympathetic to immigrants instead of more sympathetic.
Because it’s not about making immigrants more sympathetic. It’s about racism.
Racism.
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Haitian is a nationality rather than a race. But yes, it’s discrimination.
Do you really think they’re talking about Haitians? If you see someone stealing and eating a pet, how do you know they’re Haitian? Even if you hear an accent. Maybe they’re from another island in the Caribbean.
This is about black people.
Uhh no.
I mean it is literally about Haitians though, as the city of Springfield Ohio already had been incentivizing cheap import labor to take over for the American labor that had left and wouldn’t work for low wages.
Literally, a guaranteed work status and easy entry because of destabilizing forces in Haiti has meant a huge influx to the point that now more than 1 in 4 residents in Springfield are in fact Haitian.
It doesn’t mean that outlandish stories to create fear and tension are a good idea but just casually changing the details to say it’s about black people is you also trying to push a narrative on a struggling city with many real issues that are its own.
This all started with a couple of pictures of black people with dead animals. Those people were called Haitian whether they were or not because it’s easier to get away with that.
You cannot tell someone is Haitian just by looking at them.
No it started with a hodunk town being stressed by its changing landscape that is putting stress on its local residents and the Haitians that are moving there creating a powder keg of stressed resources like housing, traffic and jobs, being used as a political tool.
I understand that people are using this to use to point at generalized black people and racism (just look at you) but there is a legitimate story and starting seed for this that starts before the pandering that is happening now.
Problems can exist before you see the smoke and the problem is not the smoke but the potential fire that somehow does seem to be ignored by everyone who’d rather talk around it.
No, Trump and Vance and their surrogates are doing generalized racism. You’re just not hearing the blatant dog whistles.
And I couldn’t care less what a bunch of assholes in Aurora think about legal immigrants in their community takin’ the jerbs and daring to open Haitian food restaurants. I really couldn’t care less.
I am seeing it. I’m just not ignoring that there is in fact an interesting base for all this in order to focus on the part the racists without policy are using to push their agenda and that the liberals are ignoring cause it’s complicated and easier to focus on the racists attempt to use to belittle them without doing anything.
It really is a scathing indictment of our country that, even if the allegations were true (they aren’t), the proposed solution to the problem Republicans have offered up is to deport all of the people back to their home country rather than just… I dunno. Making sure they have other means of feeding themselves.
What the fuck has become of our society?
Mass media manipulation, constant class war, a legacy of ultrapatriotism, and crippled education has turned us into a nation of people arrogant in their own ignorance and fed up with how shit the world is today.
Mass media keeps us all at each other’s throats, stirring up hate and violence for views, and those media owners are almost all old conservative white men who will gladly court fascism for lower taxes.
What we perceive as food safety net failures is just another active weapon in the class war.
Everyone will wring their hands and say ‘What can we do it’s the economy!’ when it is rich people actively trying to erase who they consider as undesirable.
They aren’t trying to eliminate the poor. The rich want them desperate enough that they “choose” to become slaves.
This is actually incorrect and European nobility showed the template.
Do you know who served in the houses of the truly powerful? The children of the slightly less powerful. For example, the Groom of the Stool, charged with wiping the king’s ass amongst other toiletry things, was a position hotly contested by noble families of all levels.
Once they wipe out the poverty class, their servants will be what remains of the middle class, who will be desperate to maintain their lifestyle.
It isn’t spoken of out loud but among the ultra wealthy, having an all white staff is considered a mark of social status. And once those disenfranchised middle class families bend the knee, their uncertain future is resolved and we have reinvented feudalism.
It’s where we’re heading.
Yeah Vietnamese people ate dogs, cats, rats,etc. But not in the US. In Vietnam, during the war. Only because the war caused food scarcity.
An old Vietnamese man explained to me they didn’t kill their pets. But if their pet died, they would give it to their neighbours to eat, and their neighbours would do the same if their pet died. Because no matter how hungry they got, they wouldn’t want to eat their own dog.
Both sad and strangely heartwarming. I wonder if this is where these stories originated from.
you could look at it as they aren’t hungry, but like the taste of cat. let’s be honest, Americans don’t know much about other countries, many have never left their own states. so they don’t know if they eat cats there or not.
We generally don’t eat animals that eat other animals to avoid collecting pathogens and diseases.