though it’s still strange because not all of our friends are perfect either. We’re all people and we all fuck up, some more than others of course, but let’s not forget being famous makes you the perfect target for false allegations & sensitisation of your actions that’ll spread like wide fire because patience or fact checking doesn’t get clicks
Is that a belief you’ve seen expressed though? Because I have a theory that Social Justice Warriors, and Snooty Moralists in general are somewhat extinct, and more than likely never existed at all.
They’re the imagined enemy conjured by the right wing to make everyone have a feeling of having been judged, without any actual judges or judgements having been expressed.
A construct made of whole clothe , with no actual person present underneath, just propaganda pages and a feeling of having been wronged.
oh, they exist. but unfortunately they fail to see that the problem is not that the star rhey looked up to is acually a bad person (and therefor their work invalid) but that the very ideal of super-human like stars is the very mechanism that make those people get away with their behavior in the first place.
things wouldn’t be half as bad if sexual misconduct of a beloved actor was tried as soon as it happened - and not swept under the carpet for some decades while the behavior continued to happen
The only place I’ve ever seen this be true personally is sports fans. Sports fans love to talk about how they love athletes and how they’re good guys. You see it constantly. Usually it’s based upon PR stunts. Like there was a big one with current Browns quarterback to Deshaun Watson. Back when he was with the Houston Texans there was this big PR thing where he gave his paycheck to a lunch lady or something. There was a Reddit Thread about how awesome he was and what a good guy he was. Few years later there are like 40 women who are accusing him of rape and or sexual assault.
Sports fans get very invested in their teams Heroes and they think they know them. It’s a danger we all face I’m guilty of it sometimes too I’m sure, but it’s just real important to know that we don’t know these people. It’s true of all celebrities.
Because I have a theory that Social Justice Warriors, and Snooty Moralists in general are somewhat extinct, and more than likely never existed at all.
The loudest, unironic SJWs I know are all performative. The most productive activists/volunteers I know don’t make much noise on social media. The performers love saying “separating the art from the artist” type shit. One got really pissed off at me when I pushed him to drop WoW over the suicide and censoring of that tournament winner when he agreed that it was wrong of Blizzard to have done those thing.
The SJW types are absolutely over represented by the anti-Woke crowd. Ragebait all the way down.
Xi is a social justice warrior. Xi is also a dragon rider who uses spells and magic weapons in battle with the forces of evil. Xi would forgive someone who was closed minded enough to think xi doesn’t exist.
There are issues when the artist puts their problematic views into the media, but people were previously not paying attention. Harry Potter is a good example. Most people didn’t really read too much into a children book series, but when JK started talking politics, people started looking more into the subtext of her books and realized all the libertarian politics in them. I personally bailed around book 4 or so because they were annoying me and now I understand why.
people started looking more into the subtext of her books and realized all the libertarian politics in them.
False pattern recognition go brrrr
You should ALWAYS assume “after we learned this thing about this person, we went back and found loads of evidence about it hidden in their work” is bullshit.
I’ll admit I never finished the books because I thought they were bad. I thought it was annoying that Harry never paid rent while living at the Weasleys. Never bothered to offer to help with the car repairs for the car he helped total. I thought Voldemort was a boring villain and was genuinely surprised when he returned in the second and third books. I found it really annoying when Harry kept loosing positive father figures.
I found it surprising when the Hermione/House Elves storyline never went anywhere. That the racial and classism issues never really challenged outside of “the right ones” being uplifted.
Here’s the pattern. JK likes her status quo. Another pattern, she’s also a bad and boring writer. There’s a whole subgenre of fictions that’s basically “Harry Potter, but fixed”.
Xi liked Harry Potter, but even xi can see the slavery defence was weird. Xi always wondered why the good guys never tried fixing the socioeconomic problems that made the goblins and giants support Voldemort.
Drag thinks claiming every xi is the same person is racist. It shows a lack of willingness to relate to other cultures. Xi is a perfectly ordinary first name in China and it’s a neopronoun in English. Drag understands you were making a joke, but drag didn’t think it was a funny one. Drag’s already been attacked for drag’s pronouns and decided to switch to one pronoun instead of two because of it.
right on point. i wonder why people keep believing that any work they enjoy/like/happily consume is made by a good person
Parasocial relationships go brrr
I was gonna say the same thing elsewhere in this post, it’s even worse now that social media has made everybody’s lives so much more public
though it’s still strange because not all of our friends are perfect either. We’re all people and we all fuck up, some more than others of course, but let’s not forget being famous makes you the perfect target for false allegations & sensitisation of your actions that’ll spread like wide fire because patience or fact checking doesn’t get clicks
Is that a belief you’ve seen expressed though? Because I have a theory that Social Justice Warriors, and Snooty Moralists in general are somewhat extinct, and more than likely never existed at all.
They’re the imagined enemy conjured by the right wing to make everyone have a feeling of having been judged, without any actual judges or judgements having been expressed.
A construct made of whole clothe , with no actual person present underneath, just propaganda pages and a feeling of having been wronged.
oh, they exist. but unfortunately they fail to see that the problem is not that the star rhey looked up to is acually a bad person (and therefor their work invalid) but that the very ideal of super-human like stars is the very mechanism that make those people get away with their behavior in the first place.
things wouldn’t be half as bad if sexual misconduct of a beloved actor was tried as soon as it happened - and not swept under the carpet for some decades while the behavior continued to happen
Xi is a social justice warrior and xi knows that heroes are bad and a good community values ideas over people. Xi saw V For Vendetta.
The only place I’ve ever seen this be true personally is sports fans. Sports fans love to talk about how they love athletes and how they’re good guys. You see it constantly. Usually it’s based upon PR stunts. Like there was a big one with current Browns quarterback to Deshaun Watson. Back when he was with the Houston Texans there was this big PR thing where he gave his paycheck to a lunch lady or something. There was a Reddit Thread about how awesome he was and what a good guy he was. Few years later there are like 40 women who are accusing him of rape and or sexual assault.
Sports fans get very invested in their teams Heroes and they think they know them. It’s a danger we all face I’m guilty of it sometimes too I’m sure, but it’s just real important to know that we don’t know these people. It’s true of all celebrities.
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The loudest, unironic SJWs I know are all performative. The most productive activists/volunteers I know don’t make much noise on social media. The performers love saying “separating the art from the artist” type shit. One got really pissed off at me when I pushed him to drop WoW over the suicide and censoring of that tournament winner when he agreed that it was wrong of Blizzard to have done those thing.
The SJW types are absolutely over represented by the anti-Woke crowd. Ragebait all the way down.
Xi is a social justice warrior. Xi is also a dragon rider who uses spells and magic weapons in battle with the forces of evil. Xi would forgive someone who was closed minded enough to think xi doesn’t exist.
There are issues when the artist puts their problematic views into the media, but people were previously not paying attention. Harry Potter is a good example. Most people didn’t really read too much into a children book series, but when JK started talking politics, people started looking more into the subtext of her books and realized all the libertarian politics in them. I personally bailed around book 4 or so because they were annoying me and now I understand why.
False pattern recognition go brrrr
You should ALWAYS assume “after we learned this thing about this person, we went back and found loads of evidence about it hidden in their work” is bullshit.
I’ll admit I never finished the books because I thought they were bad. I thought it was annoying that Harry never paid rent while living at the Weasleys. Never bothered to offer to help with the car repairs for the car he helped total. I thought Voldemort was a boring villain and was genuinely surprised when he returned in the second and third books. I found it really annoying when Harry kept loosing positive father figures.
I found it surprising when the Hermione/House Elves storyline never went anywhere. That the racial and classism issues never really challenged outside of “the right ones” being uplifted.
Here’s the pattern. JK likes her status quo. Another pattern, she’s also a bad and boring writer. There’s a whole subgenre of fictions that’s basically “Harry Potter, but fixed”.
This is a stupid as someone who’s never liked meat explaining how easy it is to go vegan.
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Xi liked Harry Potter, but even xi can see the slavery defence was weird. Xi always wondered why the good guys never tried fixing the socioeconomic problems that made the goblins and giants support Voldemort.
Xi should get off lemmy and go back to running China. Great job on the renewables btw, keep it up. Maybe less organ harvesting pls
Drag thinks claiming every xi is the same person is racist. It shows a lack of willingness to relate to other cultures. Xi is a perfectly ordinary first name in China and it’s a neopronoun in English. Drag understands you were making a joke, but drag didn’t think it was a funny one. Drag’s already been attacked for drag’s pronouns and decided to switch to one pronoun instead of two because of it.
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Drag is confused. What symptoms of mental illness have you noticed in drag?