Updated: Israel denies involvement in deadly Gaza hospital blast, says explosion caused by Islamic Jihad

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    1 year ago

    They have no shame on deflecting the blame

    It must be a very precise and fortunate failure for Israel that an enemy rocket failed and landed exactly on a hospital and killed hundreds of Palestinians they deem unworthy of humanity.

    The western world has blood on its hand by supporting such a criminal state

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        1 year ago

        Artisanal water pipe rockets that can’t kill more than 10 people or bring down one apartment floor, can’t be the same misfired rocket that killed 500 people all at once. they just don’t have the capability for that much damage.

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          Have you seen the picture of the aftermath? It t literally burned 10 cars in a parking lot. It certainly doesn’t look like something that could kill 500 people, especially since it didn’t even touch the building. Really looks like a small misfired rocket to me.

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          killed 500 people all at once

          And destroyed 80% of a hospital… or did it?

          All the proof shows a parking lot with fewer than 10 cars on fire, surrounded by a hospital that’s still standing and usable, and maybe a dozen dead (there might be more, there is no proof of them yet).

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        When we point to your crimes against humanity, you tell us to look elsewhere. you must have iron guts to stomach what Israel committed today while keeping a straight face

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            An Israeli gov Spokesperson admitted in a tweet that it was meant to target Hamas but landed on the the hospital. he then deleted the tweet. a few screenshots are circulating still. but doesn’t constitute full proof yet

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            Looking forward to all those apologies from the triggered antisemitic egg faced cunts but I’m not holding my breath

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            Even without knowing who did it, if Israel had stopped occupying Palestinian land, killing and displacing civilians as it’s been doing for decades, we probably wouldn’t be here today, or at least, maybe I could feel sorry for them. I’m not justifying Hamas’ recent attack on civilians, it was horrible, but Israel had it coming.

                • yuriy@lemmy.world
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                  Christ this is grim. Forced conscription means anyone is fair game? Not having a decision is basically the same thing as having one, so morals have no say in this discussion.

                  You sound like a fucking cartoon villain, think about that.

              • ilmagico@lemmy.world
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                I didn’t say civilians, mind you, I said “Israel”, but let’s talk about the civilians: they voted for this government over and over for decades (minus the brief pause last year), and similar ones before, so at least the majority of them bears some responsibility as well. I’m only sorry for that minority of Israeli that wanted peace and voted for someone else.

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                  So all Palestinians who want a pure Muslim country and support the different extremist groups in Palestine have it coming as well?

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                    considering that Hamas had to fight a civil war to actually get control of Gaza and the Netanyahu government has been supporting Hamas to weaken the less radical PAs ability to actually negotiate a solution, no, the Palestinians actually have less to do with keeping Hamas in power, as compared to the Israeli government

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                  Actually you, again, literally said the thing… you referred to the civilians. They are the victims from the Israeli perspective. But tell me, what did I miss?

                  So all Americans should have their kids raped and murdered in front of them bc Trump or the decades of conservatives before him elected by half the population at best?

                  Minority in Israel? You ever talk to Israelis? Nobody under middle age votes this way and most of the older people I know are the same.

                  You’re an ignorant fuck.

                  Btw did you see who actually blew up the hospital? Apologize cunt.

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                    Sorry I was hoping to talk with an intelligent being, I will stop wasting mt time

              • blazeknave@lemmy.world
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                No, history began with the British exit, and also omits a dozen wars of aggression against Israelis and Hamas’ charter that states their mission is the eradication of all Jews everywhere… Oh, right, Arafat was a peacemaker of course too.

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                I mean, they both had their fair chances of accepting a peace deal, but for some reason that didn’t work out. Anyways, there’s ony one of the two countries currently occupying territories of the other, and that’s where my bias come from, but yeah, they’re both murderers.

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                  not really, unless you mean the Camp David talks that demanded the Palestinians have less autonomy than Poland under the USSR

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                    Whoever told you that lied about something you could easily falsify and already knew that you wouldn’t check

                    Consider what that says about how they view you.

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                    I mean that’s exactly my point: they were not able to negotiate a peace deal in good faith, which means they preferred war instead. Note I’m not familiar with that specific episode. I was thinking e.g. the assassination or Rabin by one of his own people

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        Who is funding that government exactly? Certainly not the USA and “the west”, who prefer to fund Israel instead: a country doing exactly the same, but on a larger scale, and calling different, more socially acceptable names (e.g. “casualties” vs killings). Two wrongs don’t make a right.

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          The biggest financial backer of the Palestinian Authority is “the west.” Unless you don’t consider Europe part of the west. The United States is also a substantial financial backer of the Palestinians, though not as much as Europe. About 64% of pledged international funds come from “the west” with only 20% coming from Arab sources.

          Not arguing that the US doesn’t give far more money to Israel which is of course true, but I think with these complex situations it’s important to be precise about facts.

          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_aid_to_Palestinians

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            What I see is, two terrorists doing terror attacks on each others. Some countries fund one terrorist, others fund the other terrorist. One just happen to have a lot more funding. If only they would make a peace deal … ah yeah, they tried that, didn’t work …