I wonder about this sometimes. moot was a child, started an anime website, and drew aggro from some of the worst weirdos on the planet; ancap, nazis, pedos, etc. After more than a decade, they finally broke him, with an epic thread where btards in the ground proved with photos that his girlfriend was cheating on him. He sold the site something like six months later, in 2013 or 14, I want to say. and then 18ish months after that, Trump descends a golden escalator.
I wonder sometimes if moot knew he was holding back the end of the world. I do think that Trump is the final metastisization of something that was already festering. I do think if not him, then someone. But this vanity run for president in 2016 was intended to be a negotiation tactic with NBC for the apprentice; the channer nazis were who elevated him above a gag candidate.
I do think that Trump is the final metastisization of something that was already festering. I do think if not him, then someone.
This is absolutely true because Trump is fundamentally not a fluke, but rather the inevitable culmination of festering rot at the core of American culture. If not him, it would have been someone.
Absolutely but also the fact that it was him feels rather absurd. Its like that scene in Back to the Future. “Whose the president?” “Ronald Reagan!” “The actor?!”
Donald Trump was kind of a washed up joke by the time of his initial run. Maybe the Apprentice was doing fine ratings wise, but like, i feel like everyone knew it was a clownshow. It had been running well past the Reality boom of the early 2000s. I think we all expected Americas next top fascist to be a young, handsome political agitator, a Richard Spencer type, or maybe a Journeyman statesman type, with a square jaw and flecked with gray around the temples. That’s who central casting would bring in, to sell that this guy could bring the fash to Joe sixpack in Peoria.
Instead, its a 24 hour clown show. Forget Cruz, or Graham, or even Bobert or Greene. We have other mediocre washed up has been white dudes stumping at this rallies. Hulk Hogan, Kevin Sorbo, Kid Rock, Scott Adams, Elon Musk. The fact that team sports politics has become a literal fucking clown show feels like it is in 2013 era Anon’s oeuvre of humor.
Oh absolutely, Trump is the embodiment of the stereotype of an American. He is everything wrong with the United States of America distilled down and wrapped up in a cheap suit. He is such a characture of an American that finally some Americans are looking at themselves in the mirror and saying maybe we are this. Unfortunately half of the people who do would rather embrace the things Trump represents than face the uncomfortable truth that they’re wrong, grow, and admit maybe the problem is coming from inside their house.
4chan containment leaked and broke reality.
Congress basically forced doxxed moot by being forced to testify. He originally wanted to refuse and stay home, but he would have gone to jail if he did.
Forced doxxed him? Everybody on 4chan knew who he was from the beginning. He went to the conventions. Hell, the classic meme reply to newfags explaining what a troll was used him as the template!
Did they know his full legal name? Meeting him at a con isn’t the same thing.
Also, apparently I was wrong. According to wiki, it was WSJ that doxxed him in 2008.
I met Moot at Otakon 2007 and he was kind of a dick. But here’s a fun bit of 4chan lore - When asked why he named it 4chan, he said that he wanted an English version of 2chan, and 4chan sounded cool because it was pronounced like “fortune”. Thus the logo is a 4 leaf clover, for good fortune.
I’ve never seen this mentioned anywhere online, so I wonder if he was just making a joke.
I have heard this fact before. Might have been on a 4chan retrospective video
i’ve always thought the logo was supposed to be reminiscent of the titular main character of Yotsuba&! which i think is a 4koma series.
He made 4chan because SomethingAwful got tired of him and his friends shit posting anime.
And by ‘anime’ you mean hentai and loli.
Yeah that’s plainly worse than everything that’s happened because of this.
The founder of the biggest anonymous image board wants to be left alone, what a shocker!
4chan?! Fuuuuck dat… Prolly got no games…
/b/ was never good.
rs.4chan.org was fucking awesome, though.
Careful with that, it’s an antique.
He finally became the little girl.
I mean in all honesty if a time traveler did come back and wanted to do their best to destroy Society couldn’t have done much better job really.
The time traveler was the one who convinced moot to sell. It all started going downhill after that.
Fuck, you’re right!
I would say Roger Ailes takes the cake there…
Fly high, moot. Be free.
Slither low my reptilian friend.
He must have fulfilled his dream and become a little girl.
Then he’d just be brutalized by his own platform.
*prostate
i wish her luck on her transition
Would be kind of ironic for the founder of 4chan
Not really, there’s a lot of queer folk on 4chan.
In fact, everyone is fake and gay.
iconic*
Does anyone remember canv.as? I loved that site. It was a really okay photo editor that’s better than every other free option around now. Me and the other guy who used it were so sad when it folded.
I’d like to think that he grew up and is widely embarrassed for what he’s done now.
He pretty much did make a website for the moden neo-nazi movement, along with gamergate, and inspiring another website that made Q-anon, something that certain members of congress believe now.
I don’t know if these thing would or would not exist without this website. All I know is that it would have been less pronounced because of it.
One of the reasons 8chan was created, was that moot banned the gamergate crap from 4chan.
Yeah to me it seems very clear that 4chan is a net negative on the society. We all would have been better off if it wasn’t created and I say that as someone who did find value there in the early days (had a decent programming community)
All social media is a net negative on society. Twitter has been far, far worse because it has a false legitimacy given to it by mainstream media, the much, much larger user base and terrible, terrible people using it as their soapbox.
I disagree with this very western take. Social media is huge and connects billions of people that otherwise would be disconnect. It also allowed to rise of many net positive liberal ideas especially in the eveloping countries and the incredible economical stimulation is rarely talked about.
People forget how bad the world was before internet. Sure it raises some issues but also solved much more.
Internet =/= social media.
We had the spreading of positive, liberal ideas before social media was commodifying all human interactions and the corporations weren’t able to influence individuals with forums, personal websites and IRC. Hell, even AIM and ICQ were better then what we have now.
If I turn off my ad blockers, I will see conservative ads, not because that’s what I want to see, but because that’s what the corporations want me to see.
I’m not sure if they’re all that different. Early forums were very much similar to Facebook walls etc. Irc even had bot powered gamed and complex systems like user verification etc.
There’s also the issue of scale. I don’t see any barriers or solutions in alternative network types like forums of irc that would be more resistant to social media issues
No. Forums weren’t anything like facebook or twitter. You had to choose to go onto forums and find the info you wanted. Now, you’re socially expected to have a facebook and twitter account and be subject to whatever viral trend the corporations decide to let you see.
Once upon a time, if you wanted to see neo-nazi shit, you have to learn about Stormfront from some crazy guy at a bar or some recruiter before they get kicked out of a punk show. Now, it’s delivered right to you and your grandmother first thing in the morning.
This one time I had a question that was so stupid, that website was the only place it could be asked.
I got an answer.
And you call it a net negative?! :p (heh yeah sounds very true)
PS: for the record, the topic was completely unimportant and irrelevant to anything anyone should care about, and there was nothing illegal or even rude about it
I had a question that was so stupid, that website was the only place it could be asked.
I got an answer
“Can I use a toilet brush to brush my teeth and not get rotting teeth ???”
There is a green text about how some eccentric thought could derail someone’s entire life by finding other eccentric people on the internet.
https://www.reddit.com/r/4chan/comments/5ofih3/beforeafter_the_internet/
before the internet
I want to fuck toasters dont be a fucking retard grow up
After internet
I want to fuck a toaster google find a community with 1000+ members about people wanting to fuck toasters fuck up your life
I think 4chan sadly always was kind of a mirror of society
