The White House on Tuesday said it had its own intelligence that Hamas was using Gaza's largest hospital Al Shifa to run its military operations, and probably to store weapons, saying those actions constituted a war crime.
  • LotrOrc@lemmy.worldEnglish
    294·
    11 months ago

    I keep seeing both Israel and the US say they have evidence but neither of them seem to be able or willing to show such evidence.

    That by itself should make every single person concerned, because if they actually had evidence, they would put it right out there for everyone to see. What do they gain by hiding it?

  • UnspecificGravity@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
    3110·
    11 months ago

    Good thing Biden is here to be the spokesperson for Israel for some reason. Show us the evidence or fuck off, and stop buying bullets to kill children while you’re at it.

  • be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social
    269·
    11 months ago

    Ok that’s great. Where’s the evidence that’s going to convince me it’s OK to bomb a hospital full of sick and wounded because of what Hamas is doing in their vicinity?

  • febra@lemmy.worldEnglish
    238·
    11 months ago

    Either show us or shut up. The White House also had evidence of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. We all know how that turned out.

  • ShroOmeric@lemmy.worldEnglish
    195·
    11 months ago

    Cool, so they’re gonna show us… and the evidence for bombing refugee camps, and the those for bombing trucks bringing aids, they must have enough evidence to keep us busy for a couple of months with what Israel did the last month… otherwise they can fuck right off.

  • coffee_poops@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    2515·
    11 months ago

    I DON’T CARE.

    THEY COULD HAVE THE FUCKING GHOST OF OSAMA BIN LADEN IN THERE AND I WOULDN’T CARE!

    IT’S A HOSPITAL.

  • AutoTL;DR@lemmings.worldBEnglish
    31·
    11 months ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:

    ABOARD AIR FORCE ONE, Nov 14 (Reuters) - The White House on Tuesday said it had its own intelligence that Hamas was using Gaza’s largest hospital Al Shifa to run its military operations, and probably to store weapons, saying those actions constituted a war crime.

    “We have information that confirms that Hamas is using that particular hospital for a command and control mode” and probably to store weapons, national security spokesperson John Kirby told reporters aboard Air Force One.

    He said the United States had information that Hamas and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad were using some hospitals in the Gaza Strip, including Al Shifa, to conceal or support their military operations and to hold hostages.

    “We have been clear on multiple occasions - Hamas actions do not lessen Israel’s responsibilities to protect civilians in Gaza, and this is something we’re going to continue to have an active conversation with our counterparts about,” he added.

    Israeli forces have surrounded Gaza City’s Al Shifa hospital, the biggest in the enclave, which they say sits atop an underground headquarters of Hamas militants.

    Hamas, Gaza’s ruling Islamist group, denies fighters are present and says 650 patients and 5,000-7,000 other civilians are trapped inside the hospital grounds, under constant fire from snipers and drones.

    The original article contains 437 words, the summary contains 209 words. Saved 52%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

    • Madison420@lemmy.worldEnglish
      91·
      11 months ago

      Neither of those articles say that, and in fact your first article mentions Hamas firing on the hospital, not firing from.

      • pewter@lemmy.worldEnglish
        11·
        11 months ago

        That’s not true. That’s not what the article says.

        Fatah gunmen began firing mortars and rocket-propelled grenades at Shifa Hospital in Gaza City, drawing Hamas fire from inside the building, killing one Hamas and one Fatah fighter.

        According to the article, Fatah was firing on the hospital and Hamas was firing from the hospital.

        • Madison420@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          11 months ago

          “These attacks by both Hamas and Fatah constitute brutal assaults on the most fundamental humanitarian principles,”

          It says both. They fired at hamas, hamas fled to a safe zone and the Fatah fired on the hospital… And hamas returned fire.

          • pewter@lemmy.worldEnglish
            11·
            11 months ago

            Yes, they returned fire from the hospital.

            EDIT: the part you quoted doesn’t say who was firing from where.

            • Madison420@lemmy.worldEnglish
              1·
              11 months ago

              Aside from third party articles that dispute most if not all of the claims therein specifically the doctors and nurses they reference are a. Not known to be workers there, b. At least one of those doctors was under isreali detention only to be executed later.

              If you choose to believe that by all means do but don’t expect everyone else to.

              • pewter@lemmy.worldEnglish
                11·
                11 months ago

                I can’t independently verify if the source is accurate since I wasn’t on the ground in Gaza when this happened. I’m just telling you what the article said. I don’t think it’s a good practice to lie to people about the claims that sources make.

  • ristoril_zip@lemmy.zipEnglish
    1·
    11 months ago

    If only there were some way to get individuals you want to capture or kill without also killing everyone around them. Oh well, maybe one day someone will invent a way to do that.

    Seriously, y’all. How is “there’s a bad guy in that hospital” somehow an acceptable justification for blowing up the hospital?!

    Dear Israel: use your world renowned special forces and world renowned secret police to go get the assholes and disappear them to a prison cell or whatever without killing a bunch of innocent civilians!! For fuck’s sake…