Florida here checking in.

Our government is hard at work on this.

Check out this pending bill up for vote during the next session: https://m.flsenate.gov/session/bill/2024/599/billtext/filed/pdf https://m.flsenate.gov/session/bill/2024/599/billtext/filed/pdf

Essentially it makes it illegal to be transgender and have a job in government or government adjacent.

Here is an excert: It is the policy of the state that a person’s sex is an immutable biological trait and that it is false to ascribe to a person a pronoun that does not correspond to such person’s sex. This section does not apply to individuals born with a genetically or biochemically verifiable disorder of sex development, including, but not limited to, XX disorder of sex development; XY disorder of sex development; sex chromosome disorder of sex development; XX or XY sex reversal; and ovotesticular disorder.

An employee or a contractor may not be required, as a condition of employment, to refer to another person using that person’s preferred personal title or pronouns if such personal title or pronouns do not correspond to that person’s sex.
An employee or a contractor may not provide to an employer his or her preferred personal title or pronouns if such preferred personal title or pronouns do not correspond to his or her sex.
An employee or a contractor may not be asked by an employer to provide his or her preferred personal title or pronouns or be penalized or subjected to adverse personnel action for not providing his or her preferred personal title or pronouns.

It continues on about not being able to fire people for thinking being gay is a sin and so on, but I don’t want this to be a novel.

Their Stochastic terrorism has too low of a rate. Either move onto more practical efforts, or make the whole world worse to increase the Stochastic terrorism rates.

Well shit, they’re just going to do both.

Hahaha, the word conservative dies at war doesn’t it?

others are gossiped to be gay.

Milonov. He makes a lot of anti-gay statements, but he is gossiped to be gay.

My bet is they round up the men and send them to the front as fodder.

The convenient thing about the LGBTQ+ community though is that we can pop up anywhere, at any time. The perpetual boogieman.

I mean, they are literally mounting campaigns targeting gays now. Maybe it sucks for both but it sucks especially hard for gay people in Russia at the moment.

E.g. Maybe it sucks to live in Mordor. But as a Goblin instead of as an Orc, maybe it sucks especially hard when Sauron starts the “let’s purge the Goblins” campaign led by the Orcs.

The Russian conservatives include plenty of gay people. Obviously hypocritical

Example: Milonov

They in general have no consistent ideology to speak of.

For those who don’t know difference between totalitarism and authoritarism, this is the differece.

Take anyone important - they’ve been with “democrats pushing for reform” in the last years of the USSR, then “democrats fighting the Communist beast” in Yeltsin’s early years, then “centrists trying to prevent the integrity of the federation” in his late years, then with Putin “law against terrorism”, then “law against neo-Nazis”, then “economic stability unlike the bad-bad 90s”, and so on. At some point they got lazy and the facades became less consistent and memorable.

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It’s worth remembering that for all of the numerous issues Western nations and especially the US have with freedom of speech and expression, for every convert to some racist ideology, there is also a new supporter of LGBT+. The rise in hate we see is paralleled by a rise in acceptance of the marginalized. Freeze peaches is a double edged sword and always has been.

The paradox of tolerance is certainly an issue, but the very fact we’ve evolved as a culture to the point we’re having a discussion about it says something about the benefits of that freedom. Our culture isn’t stagnant. We have the capacity for growth and change, and while the government usually maintains the social status quo, we in turn can affect what the status quo is.

Not always. Soviet Russia decriminalized homosexuality in 1917, and it was the first country in the world to do that. But it was recriminalized again in 1933 by Stalin.

I was reading several months ago that there was a time in the mid ‘90s that there were a few gay clubs in Russia that were relatively unmolested by the cops, as long as the local “roof” was paid off.

Not always, there were periods in their history of acceptance of homosexuality.

And Ukraine’s president is Jewish.

Not so much “Russians being Russian” as it is “Fascist power structure being fascist power structure “

It’s more accurate to say that Russia under the Soviets was also an authoritarian state.

Authoritarians by their very nature are right-wing.

Putin, the Soviets, the Nazis, Conservatives, and Fascists of all flavors are obsessed with control and conformity.

It’s far easier to control a population when everyone is exactly the same.

This is why the true left wing movements have always embraced minorities and outliers.

This of course is a call back to the very origins of the terms left and right when discussing politics. The French Revolution. A vote was held. One of the first of the new assembly. The question was, “Should the king have an absolute veto over new laws?”. Those in support of the monarchy sat to the right of the speaker’s podium. Those opposed sat to the left.

All the economic bullshit of capitalism v communism was added later. Making the Soviets, a supposedly communist nation, firmly right wing. Not that the Soviets were particularly good at actual communism. Communism sort of requires the workers to control the means of production, not the State. Workers must be working for their own profit, not the profit of the State.

Working for the profit of the State is more of a kleptocracy.

The nazis criminalized, imprisoned, and eventually exterminated gay and transgender people in death camps. So yes, comparisons to nazis are fair when you criminalize lgbt people and start rounding them up in jail, preventing them from gathering together, etc etc

I see you are well acquainted with the idea of redfash

It’s true that authleft often looks a lot like authright, which supports the theory that political alignment is more like a circle than a line. After all, they were allies before Hitler betrayed Stalin. Since then being anti-Nazi became a big part of Russian propaganda.

That’s one way to create a rainbow

Maybe they should. Carve out a piece of land and make it a homeland for them which would included a whole mess of weapons

Please stop using term ‘communist’ in context of progressive far-left socialism.

Communism is totalitarian oppression. Every time you mention communism, you mention Stalin, you cannot separate communism and gulags.

The communism as envisioned by Karl Marx never existed. The closest thing to Marx communism right now is Sweden, Denmark, and Finland, with their over-50% tax rates and hyper-socialist policies, and they sure as hell do not call themselves communist.

This comment is a minor masterpiece of rambling disjointed incoherence. I couldn’t do better if I tried. Were you roaring drunk when you wrote it? Do you even remember writing it?

Perhaps the true nazis were the friends we made along the way.

Sure it can. But that doesn’t mean it is.

Oh I’m sure if you look hard enough you’ll find one or two nazis hiding anywhere, even if they don’t identy as nazi or even know what it means.

But Russia, with its actions, have proven themselves to be an imperialist, nationalist, fascist piece of shit. And while both could be true, actions speak louder.

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You need to study the subject more closely before stating that (: Slavik nazism is a deep rabbithole, but for the purpose of this article, I compare two governments, and one of them does indulge in that kind of rhetoric more than the other.

Yes there are stupid people everywhere. In most places they aren’t literally running the country.

It’s a bit unsettling how this statement resembles whataboutism often employed by Russian politicians to brush off any criticism

Where is that from?

Sad news for Russia. If only they made matchmaking lists instead of hit lists

Twin Clancy, that’s a name I never heard before 😅

My experience has been exactly the opposite. They go out of their way to defend Russia and China and will hardly utter a word of criticism against either.