• SCB@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Which ones? Israel isn’t a theocracy. Israel has secular and private schools just like all free countries. Israel doesn’t steal from their people. 10/7 happened because Israel is normalizing relations, and did not succeed in ending that process, etc.

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        It’s literally a secular state lol.

        Islam is the second-largest religion in Israeli and Israeli Muslims have full rights and representation in government.

        Israel is the “official state of the Jewish people” but not only a state for the Jewish people. It’s just the one that reliably won’t exterminate them.

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          10 months ago

          If i said: South Africa is the official state of the white people. How would you feel about it?

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            White people is a race, so it’s a little different. Also S.A. has a history of apartheid, so that would be worrying for them specifically.

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              Ok, so you agree that israel differenciates between religions.

              Positive descrimination is still discrimination, especially then you discriminate in favor of the majority.

              Example: USA is the state of the cristian people. Is this good? Is this secular?

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                I don’t believe an argument can realistically be made that the US is particularly Christian at all, as a government.

                Some conservatives use Christianity as a tool to get elected though.

                A Christian nation, for instance, would take care of their poor and welcome immigrants.

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                  It was an example. You are missing the point.

                  The point is: if a state has in its base law a preference for one religion over another, it can never call itself secular. Even if they teach evolution in schools.

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                    It doesn’t, though. None of its laws are preferential or exclusive. What you linked above isn’t a law that restricts anyone.

                    And if you’re curious, should a right-wing government there impose those laws, id wholeheartedly support reforms.