• Kroxx@lemm.ee
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    3 months ago

    Team aluminum all the way. A higher up where I work is obsessed with stainless steel, he gets these monstrous heavy duty tables made out of SS that hold objects 1/3 of their weight. Makes lab rearranging a nightmare lol.

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      Aluminum is where it’s at, and where it is, is everywhere.

      Your cans? Aluminum. Your car? Mostly aluminum. Old wiring, you better believe that’s aluminum. Your fucking phone screen is aluminum, sand paper is aluminum, half the birth stones are all aluminum let’s fucking goooo baybee

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        Most cars are still steel. Source I work on cars in New England. So much rust, even on the ones with aluminum bodies, at least wherever it can touch a dissimilar metal and becomes a battery.

        And crucially the important parts that keep it from exploding (cylinder liners) and save you in a crash (crumple and bumper cores) are almost all steel. Because it deforms better with simpler engineering.

        See also iron brakes in most cars hardened steel bearings everywhere.

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          I was referring to the engine block and pistons being aluminum. I assume chassis and many of the critical spinning bits are still steel or iron.

          It’s also mostly a shit post. I’m a machinist and I am surrounded by aluminum in funny forms.

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            Yeah I’m mostly just shitting on it for fun too. But the pistons don’t work very long without steel rings, wrist pins and big end bolts.

            The problem is we have to bring copper, brass and other fancy metals in them though, because the all spin on oil cushion bearings. Unless we’re talking Babbitt bushings from the early 1900s.

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      Us Americans are too excited about making stuff with our Uh-loo-min-um that we just skip pronouncing some of the vowels

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        Guy that named it called it Aluminum

        Weirdo types that decided they were in charge of naming things decided to name it Aluminium so it “matched” the likes of other metals like titanium, iridium, etc

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          And thanks for that. Aluminum is a stupid ass name.

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          Guy that named it called it Aluminum, Alumium, and Aluminium. Aluminium stuck, even in the US.

          Then some weirdo types decided they were in charge of naming things in the US decided it needs to be Aluminum. It took them about 50-90 years to succeed.

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          No, the guy who discovered it called it Alumium, after Alum. Both Aluminum and Aluminium were later constructions by journals on opposite sides of the pond.

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          Guy that named it called it Aluminum

          Let me guess: you pronounce GIF as Jif just because the creator is a peanut butter obsessed weirdo who couldn’t pronounce “graphics”?

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            couldn’t pronounce “graphics”

            That’s not how acronym pronunciation works though. We don’t pronounce them based on the words they stand for, otherwise we would pronounce NASA, SCUBA, LASER, etc. differently. Both pronunciations have valid arguments so why can’t we just accept both and stop being weird about it.

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              Because I arbitrarily decided it’s gif 13 years ago and anyone who says it the other way is wrong 😡😡😡

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      That’s because the only way to get aluminum, historically, was to find nuggets of it. The process for extracting it from bauxite wasn’t invented until the mid to late 1800s. This is reflected in Dwarf Fortress, as aluminum metal has the same value as platinum and bauxite is a near-worthless construction material.

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    I can’t think of many things you encounter every day that just use straight iron. Only alloys that use iron

    Meanwhile, you’ll use very pure aluminum all the time

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        Uh, I hate to break it to you, but literally all the iron in the human body is either part of a protein or bound to other molecules. It’s not an alloy per se, but it isn’t exactly pure iron

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      Sounds like aluminum is a loner and iron plays well with others. I’d bet there is still more iron encountered every day than aluminum even if the aluminum is pure and the iron is alloyed.

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      Pure aluminium is only used when you need to have very little reactivity.

      General construction steel has >98% weight iron. Around the same as most aluminium alloys.

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        Really now? I thought most steel had way more carbon & chromium/nickel/manganese than that. I guess I underestimate how little is needed to make iron no longer mushy.

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          It is mainly only in stainless steels that have anything other than iron in high concentrations, they might have something like 30% of their weight elements other than iron

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      Perhaps so, but one might argue that human tech relies more on iron than any other metal - because of its magnetic properties. We need iron to generate and manipulate electricity.

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      I’m a tungsten alloy man myself. Although it’s not nearly as flexible as some other metals, god damn is it strong.

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      Pity it’s been suggested it’s a cumulative neurotoxin that contributes to Alzheimer’s disease. That’s the one thing I don’t like about aluminium.

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    I still can’t believe there’s people pronouncing it aluminium instead of aluminium

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      You do realise that aluminium (ium) is not spelled the same as aluminum (um) ? It’s not a case of the same letters being pronounced two different ways

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        I’m not the person you’re replying to, but actually, I didn’t know that; I just went and read up the history of the word and it’s pretty interesting (for a nerd like me), so thank you for highlighting this. I admit, it used to confuse/irk me to hear Americans pronouncing aluminium like aluminum, so it pleases me to realise that I was wrong and that Americans are actually just pronouncing aluminum like aluminum.

        I think I didn’t realise this in part because apparently aluminium is generally used in American scientific writing. This is interesting to me because many journals style guidelines demand American spellings of words (My mind blanks of specific examples right now, but I often have to replace s with z when Americanising my writing). I don’t know why, but I find it neat to imagine a kinship with a hypothetical American scholar who curses as they “correct” aluminum to aluminium before submitting their paper.

        Edit: I can’t believe I literally wrote an example of a word with the relevant s/z thing and didn’t notice. Americanise/Americanize

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      The same people who presumably fill balloons with helum, want to cut down on sodum in their diet, prevent Iran from refining uranum, power their phones with lithum batteries, and enjoy singing David Guetta’s house classic Titanum

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      Titanium is awesome, though. Has similar corrosion properties to aluminum (in that it only oxidizes on the surface), is similar in strength to iron/steel, but is only about 60% of the weight iron. So it’s lighter.
      Plus if you mix in molybdenum and I think some nickel, you can have yourself a very long lasting spring that won’t sag like steel springs after several years.
      Main downside is it’s so expensive compared to iron :(