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cm0002@lemmy.world to memes@lemmy.world · 8 months ago

Downvoting posts that commit logical fallacies.

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Downvoting posts that commit logical fallacies.

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cm0002@lemmy.world to memes@lemmy.world · 8 months ago
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  • nomy@lemmy.zip
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_fallacy

    • Speiser0@feddit.org
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      That’s not how one should use voting on lemmy. If the conclusion happens to be right but the reasoning is faulty, it’s still a bad post.

      • howrar@lemmy.ca
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        Conversely, if the conclusion was wrong but it added value to the discussion, then it’s still a good post.

  • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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    I downvote spelling problems immediately. I bet there’s a high correlation between fallacies and “can’t spell for shit”.

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      This is a type of ad hominem fallacy because you’re downvoting based on something about the speaker that is unrelated to the argument. You might argue that there is a correlation between the misspellings and logical fallacies, but you offer no evidence, and the fact that you committed this phallusy while spelling everything correctly speaks otherwise.

      • SchwertImStein@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        it’s not about the speaker, it’s about the their past actions

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      • otacon239@lemmy.world
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        Yeah, I often have to edit my comments a couple times before I fix all the issues and it might be a while before I catch it.

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        One must have a respect for their audience. Proofreading takes one person a few seconds, and collectively saves thousands of people time trying to decipher.

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      Causation (morons can’t spell) = Correlation (morons also say stupid shit that is wrong)

    • BeBopALouie@lemmy.ca
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      I am almost 70 and I some of the time these days I wonder is this English evolving or is it just someone who can’t spell etc. It makes my brain hurt. To make it worse for me my mother was a British war bride who would only let me speak “The Queen’s English” and made me watch Jeopardy every lunch for about 8 yrs. Sound great? Nope, my mother never taught me the rules. Even though I sounded very smart and had a great command of the English language I could never correct anyone because they would say why and I could not cite the rules.

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      My views on spelling changed dramatically over time. I am able to spell very well (in French) so I used it for moral superiority.

      Then I learned and realized that the French opaque, obtuse spelling system has been openly and admittedly designed for social elitism and discrimination. It’s less about intellect and more about education, i.e., privileges and social class. Mastery of a dumb, nonsensical spelling system is no intellectual feat, it’s a circus act.

      English orthography is also dumb and nonsensical, but I guess this is due to the hybrid nature of the language and the lack of an Academy. But it’s also used by elitists for moral superiority, which I find hilarious.

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        the French opaque, obtuse spelling system has been openly and admittedly designed for social elitism and discrimination

        I find that difficult to believe, would you happen to remember where you read this? I’m curious to know more about that.

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          Sure! Here’s a nice article by Mireille Elchacar, lexicologist and professor at TELUQ university.

          The relevant portion:

          Le 8 mai 1673, l’Académie française tranche en faveur de l’orthographe savante « qui distingue les gens de Lettres d’avec les Ignorants et les simples femmes ».

          My translation:

          The 8 of May, 1673, the French Academy decides in favor of a scholarly orthography “which distinguishes literary people from the ignorants and simple women”.

          Yikes! That’s the basis of the “etymologic” or rather pseudo-etymologic orthography of French. The French Academy is still the authority for the French language, a remnant of the Ancient Régime. To my knowledge, they haven’t retracted this statement since and to my judgement they still adhere to it by their actions and decisions today.

  • someguy3@lemmy.world
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    Ad memeier.

  • Sophocles@infosec.pub
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    Ad baculum 🤔

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      Don’t worry, they’ve got a cream for that now.

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    First Incompleteness Theorem: “Any consistent formal system F within which a certain amount of elementary arithmetic can be carried out is incomplete; i.e. there are statements of the language of F which can neither be proved nor disproved in F.” (Raatikainen 2020)

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    'Sex is more fun than logic. One cannot prove this, but it ‘is’ in the same sense that Mount Everest ‘is’, or that Alma Cogan ‘isn’t’. Goodnight."

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      I always heard that name as “Al McHogan.”

      Either way, fuck supper.

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        Alma Cogan was a popular singer who had died recently when this was written. So kind of a ‘too soon?’ thing.

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    But all of my posts contain logical fallacies!

    • Maven (famous)@lemmy.zip
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      But Black Dynamite, I sell drugs in the community!

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    I hate downvote culture. I think it’s worth downvoting if someone is saying something harmful or evil or bad faith. Apart from that, if I don’t really like the post, I just ignore it.

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    But if you start doing that, where will it end‽ You must be a bad person for doing this. No true Lemmy user would do it. Most people don’t do this, it must be wrong. Has anyone asked what the admins think?

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      Tl;dr

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        • PattyMcB@lemmy.world
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          Lorem ipsum?

      • vivendi@programming.dev
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        Downvoting willy nilly is le bad

    • p_kanarinac@retrolemmy.com
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      Strangers? This is the internet, you may not be even communcating with a human.

    • Feathercrown@lemmy.world
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      Reductio ad wingardium leviosa fallacy. I win

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