• ѕєχυαℓ ρσℓутσρє@lemmy.sdf.org
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    22 days ago

    I’ve installed Arch manually exactly once. (Just for the bragging rights, lol)

    My go to way is just installing EndeavourOS. It’s basically Arch, but with a nicer installer and reasonable defaults.

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      Once is all you need to be fair. After that you’re the exact person who should be using archinstall.

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      22 days ago

      I did it once, wrote down all the commands I used in order and then made my own install script. It was a great learning experience

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        i did that once… watched a video of some guy installing it, wrote down every single command, did it myself, it worked! then the clock system broke and i tried to fix it, couldn’t do it because dumb, and reinstalled it. exact same commands as before, but it didn’t work, no clue why

        then i did the same with some other youtube video, until i just decided to use an arch based distro with an installer

        now i just see people talking about archinstall and i’m like… i could’ve done it with one command? why did nobody tell me??? or did i just ignore everyone who told me? am i stupid???

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      I use Endeavour, btw. Nah, I don’t think it’ll catch one.

      I’m super stoked to be on an Arch-based system, but things have been so easy I have earned no bragging rights what-so-ever with it.

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      I got to where it expected me to partition the drive manually and noped out. I was doing that in the 90’s when I compiled my own kernel. Ain’t nobody got time for that today.

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      21 days ago

      Now I kind of want to see just how broken my install gets if I just have ChatGPT guide me through the whole installation.

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        It gets real messy, lol. I tried to have GPT guide me through figuring out a Node and nvm error in my Arch WSL and it made nightmare spaghetti out of my npm prefix.

        It eventually got stuck in a loop of trying to make me do the same two things over and over again and expected different results each time.

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      People copying gpt commands into terminal is bound to be fked by the troll commands, right? Please.

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    I did it the manual way probably about 10 times on my Linux learning journey, it was a really good way to learn how Linux itself worked. Now I just use archinstall every time.

    I’ve done it, I’ve gotten the satisfaction from it, but it’s not gonna add any more inches to my e-peen.

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      22 days ago

      thats fine and thats the exact usecase for arch install. This meme is for people who never install it once manually and use archinstall to get a working configured system.

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    22 days ago

    I use arch btw, have been for 5 or so years, I open the gates to those who want to use arch install

    You are not any lesser for not wanting to install arch manually

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    22 days ago

    Oh, you use pacstrap and arch-chroot, do you? Back in my day all we had was cp and install and we liked it that way! Kids these days wouldn’t know how to install SLS without their Yays and Pac-men.

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      22 days ago

      Imagine installing Arch without having to bindmount dev, proc and sys smh my head

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      This is “I use arch, btw” - Beast-Mode

      PS. There was always the normal chroot, or not?

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        chroot was introduced in 1979 for Unix. arch-chroot is a wrapper around chroot that provides additional functionality and a tighter integration between the system and the new root.

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    21 days ago

    I’ve been using arch since archinstall came out. I never installed it reading the wiki.

    I sleep like a baby and everything works.

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    “We need more people to use linux, look at what MS is doing to people.”

    People who have never used linux trying to use and learn linux by using an installer built by awesome members of the Arch team.

    “C’mon do you even linux?”

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    22 days ago

    People here are always talking about different distros, trying this one and then that one until they found what they like. Are you guys really just reinstalling your OS that often? Reinstalling all the programs you want and everything?

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      22 days ago

      it’s called “distrohopping”, and yes. nowadays it’s easier to do it in a vm, but less fun

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      I’m not. Mint is all I need, Mint is all I want.

      These comments really make me wonder if people would just get therapy instead of installing Arch if therapy was cheaper.

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      When I started out, I used to change distros like socks lol While you do have to reinstall programs, having a separate /home partition means that you can keep your stuff between changes

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    Wht does it even matter if you don’t install Arch manually? Is the whole point of the arch installing? I don’t think so, it’s using. If you don’t find anything joyful in manually installing arch it’s perfectly fine to manually install only once to make sure you know how it works. And just use archinstall in every following installation that’s not shamefu

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      No! Heathen! Download the source for every package and compile it yourself! Compile the kernel yourself, compile the compiler yourself! Never script anything, always do every step manually, every time! Using tools that make things convenient and foolproof makes you weak and unappreciative of the real hardship and struggle it requires to checks notes use a personal computer!

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      22 days ago

      Archinstall is a part of arch so they say they use arch btw that’s sensible to be

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        The “btw” is insincere if they didn’t do it manually, they should be prohibited from using it.

        Arch’s tag to neatly summarise the aloof snobbery must be preserved. If archintall script users can say it; how long until “I use manjaro btw”, or “i use endeavouros btw”. At which point it just has no value - I don’t believe these people are genuinely considering themselves superior to other users - as reflected in several other comments here.

        Archinstall script should be modified to install a keylogger that will bork the system if ever “arch btw” is detected.

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          If one has installed arch using the installer, what is the correct way to impart upon the world that you are in fact a user of arch. Can one very quickly and silently breathe out the words “iusearch”?

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            21 days ago

            That is tolerable, so long as they don’t besmirch the “btw”.

            They could also say summit like: " i am a colossal doric"