• waterore@lemmy.world
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    If you’re immortal and can’t get your hands on a castle or 2 then what are you doing with your infinite time?

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      “I had a castle, then I got ruined in the S&L collapse in the 80s. I did eat a few of those bankers, though.”

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      If you’re immortal

      Yeah can’t find any stories that don’t have him alive for hundreds of years before the castle.

      You know, there’s probably a movie in that somewhere…

      Dracula beginnings.

      Wife dies, leads him to learning dark arts, accidentally turns himself into a vampire instead of reanimating his wife, he works his way up through the aristocracy as an assassin, slowly grows tired of humanity, perhaps a little evil, and slowly kills/controls his way into the aristocracy.

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        Castlevania vibes. I’m not sure any have an origins story for him, but I did get the impression that he was ancient from the show and had accumulated more knowledge in his libraries than humanity had in all the libraries of the world.

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      It’s a skill issue by the 2nd or 3rd generation you live through, honestly.

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    Vampires are anti-nobility allegories! Dracula is a vampire because he is a count.

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      I’m pretty sure it was something like “Dracula doesn’t have a castle because he’s a vampire. He has a castle because he’s a Count.”

      If this is annoying and pedantic, I apologize. For whatever reason, the original post isn’t displaying for me.

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      Vampires are classically allegories about scary foreigners spreading diseases and sexual immorality. See Stoker’s Dracula and Le Fanu’s Carmilla for the Ur-examples. There is, however, a really good modern reading of Dracula as healthy queer polyamory vs toxic polygamy. And Carmella is the inspiration for many of the canonical works of lesbian literature.

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        Eh. It’s true that Dracula was a scary foreigner, but he was also nobility, and most subsequent vampire works definitely lean into the nobility aspect instead of the foreigner aspect. Debaucherous nobility is a common theme in works that deal with non-monstrous aristocrats, too.

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      At a generalisation, vampire fiction is left-wing (bloodsucking elites preying on humanity), zombie fiction is right-wing (“the peasants are revolting!”)

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        that is not zombie fiction. what zombie fiction is depicting it like that?

        the george romero stuff were about consumerism and brainless shoppers mindlessly spending on crap. the dead rising series (spoilers here) literally has the bad guy be a corporation and the us government and military are complacent in it (the corporation even has an actual cure for zombies but that doesnt make them money like their once a day doses)

        also zombies are basically what humans are to animals. seemingly never getting tired and always slowly catching up to you

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        That’s one reading. Another reading is that vampires are bloodsucking foreigners using their exotic charms to tempt and corrupt innocent women into sinful acts. And if a foreign noble is a vampire, then it’s justified for America the heroes to depose them. Plus, they found a novel way to weaponise Christianity.

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    This is something The Elder Scrolls got right. Vampires could be anyone. The Mayor of a city, the homeless guy in the cave outside of town. You won’t know until they find you wandering around at night.

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      Most fiction that has a society of vampires portrays it this way. It wouldn’t make sense for every single one of them to be a count who lives in their own castle.