• ynthrepic@lemmy.world
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    Dehulling rice is way harder than processing wheat…

    Also eating boiled wheat grains was a thing long before bread was figured out.

    You can make bread with rice flour too if that’s your thing.

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    Rice needs very wet and fairly warm conditions to grow whereas wheat is a cool weather crop and doesn’t need as much water

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    Wait until you learn about the ridiculous hoops you need to jump through to make cocoa or coffee beans into something palatable, especially compared to hot leaf juice tea.

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    Wheat is just fancy grass. People learned how to process wheat before they learned how to wipe their asses with a communal sponge on a stick.

    Wheat calories are what unlocked the big brain thinking that first said, “Guys, let’s put just ONE sponge on a stick. And share it!”

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      Rice is just fancy grass, too. So are oats, barley, and rye. All fancy grass

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      When humanity discovered bread it made their heads and brains smaller. We all need dental work because of bread - our heads are too small for our teeth.

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        Bread?

        Agriculture. Otherwise explain how cultures that cultivate rice or maize or yams where no wheat grows also experienced the same morphological changes.

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          Wheat was the first farmed plant, about 10k years ago, at least the first we can see in the archaeological record. I shouldn’t have said “bread” as that was at least hundreds of years later

          I’m not sure whether the Nile region invented bread before they exported farming

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            My friend. 10K years ago humans already occupied Asia, the Americas, and Southern Africa.

            None of them had wheat. But the jaw shrinkage theory applies to them.

            How would jaws shrink in MesoAmerica when wheat didn’t arrive until 500 years ago?

            Cultivated corn.

            How did jaws shrink in Asia when wheat was not cultivated widely and was not made into bread?

            Cultivated rice.

            How did jaws shrink in SubSahan Africa where wheat simply can not grow? 100% of bread made in most African nations is made from imported flour.

            Cultivated millet, sorghum, rice, and yams.

            Then why would groups that don’t have bread, and in many cases have only had access to bread for 4 or 5 generations, experience jaw shrinkage thousands of years ago? There’s literally billions of people pointing to the fact that is agriculture.

            This isn’t conspiracy theory stuff. Even the wiki page says it’s agriculture.

            It’s OK to realize you were told wrong by someone else. It’s not your fault. It’s not an L, it’s learning.

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    Yeah let me just replace these rolling wheat hills with a rice farm. It’d totally work because wheat and rice have the same growing conditions. Dumbass

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    The stupid level of processing is…boiling it? Same as rice, people only discover processing it a bit later.

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      If you think about it then boiling is not that easy.

      There is almost no way to boil something until you discover pottery and ceramic, and this is quite advanced tech for many early civilizations.

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        The Haida on the west coast of Canada put red hot rocks in their canoes to render fish. You underestimate humans ingenuity.

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          Humans are very clever. Sometimes I feel very clever because I have learned so many cool facts and skills with the internet, and then I think about all the knowledge I hold that people of the past managed to figure out from scratch, and it blows my mind

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          you don’t even need a canoe, just something that’s vaguely water resistant that you can line a pit in the ground with.

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      My understanding is that rice doesn’t need to be soaking in water, either, but it helps with the weeds, since rice can survive the water but not other plants

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    wheat has almost twice as much protein. A wheat-fed peasant, you’re probably going to be stronger and healthier than a riice-fed peasant.

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      i think the problem is that people these days wholly associate wheat with bleached core flour, which kind of fucking sucks.

      Even just going with whole wheat flour makes a big difference in nutrition

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    A person probably made some fermented wheat beverage on accident and thought its worth repeating.

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      How did people who wiped their ass with a communal sponge on a stick figure out beer?

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        Because someone who is starving to death will eat literally anything.

        Someone tried rotten grain and got a buzz and then after surviving the famine went back and figured something out.

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        the beer came way, WAAAAAAY before the communal ass sponge, which was a uniquely roman piece of nonsense afaik

        and we all know how well the romans managed, in the end.

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        Also freeze drying them first. Ancient taters were poisonous, since they are nightshade. And freeze drying them would reduce the toxins.

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            Yeah but if you live high up the Andes it’s basically freeze drying, because of the freezing nights and the high altitude sun during the day.

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              Exactly what I’m saying! “freeze drying” sounds like a way more involved process than something that just happens on its own if you do nothing.

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                True but someone had to figure out the process even if it was by accident. Like the first people who tried the first potato species probably didn’t eat them again because they got sick. Until someone ate a potato (against the knowledge of the time) that was left out of the ground over night.

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        yeah, brown rice is just whole grain rice. It’s pretty sad how we’ve culturally forgotten that you can just fucking eat grains without dehulling them, grinding them, sifting the flour, and fucking bleaching it so it’s white as chalk.

        whole grains are great, every sensible food administration is begging people to eat whole grains because it’s such a simple way to massively improve your nutrition

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    Processing wheat involves letting it dry and opening both ends of the barn so the hulls blow away.

    And rice is extremely laborious to grow.

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    “be wheat” yeah like anyone here has ever been wheat

    buncha posers