These might be the good old days. Go outside, feel the grass, say wassup to your neighbors,… whatever you do that means community, because sh*t might get bad for a while.
People outside the US have always been terrified of what the US president might do. Imagine if China had military bases all over the world.
Valid take. The military industrial complex is a terrifying ordeal.
We haven’t been
And the thing is: Trump is not a clever man. In fact, he’s blantantly, obviously, ferociously stupid. He didn’t just appear out of nowhere. The rest of us have been watching this dog eat grass for the last 50 years.
The best part will be if he wins, those in power will just sit around with their thumbs up their butts waiting for fascism to take over on Jan. 20th.
Yeah, it’s like, “You obviously know that he is a clear and present danger this time around, shouldn’t you do something about it? Tradition and democracy are going to be cast aside if he comes to power, why wait for that to happen for the worse?” Biden needs to Seal Team Six Trump/Vance before they ever come close to taking power, consequences be damned, at least that would force the Supreme Court to step in and say that, No, the President can’t have political opponents assassinated, it would still be a constructive ruling for democracy.
The first time Trump got elected, they could maybe have been forgiven. It was bad then, but I think people assumed that he would somehow “fall in line” or just take a back seat while the adults ran the show or mature or whatever, but I think it’s pretty clear that it’s going to be a total shitshow this time around.
The first time he was elected, it was still inexcusable to vote for a known racist, rapist asshole, but nobody thought he’d actually make a serious effort to destroy democracy. It’s been a well-known fact ever since.
Not if you’re a wage earner, sadly.
American propaganda is wild.
Its mostly just the echo chamber. But its quite sad in here for sure.
Edit: Hilarious that you were being upvoted until my comment gave more context to what you meant. Mindless lemmings.
Also, vote if you haven’t yet.
Yep, already dropped of my mail-in ballot in person and received an email from the county election supervisor that my vote counted 🤠
I voted, but since I’m not in a swing state I wouldn’t go so far as to say my vote counted.
House and Senate matter far more than the presidency, without them the president has very little influence on policy with exception of veto power.
With 2/3 control, the president wouldn’t even have veto power and would be entirely powerless.
Vote for your congressional representation! This is the one day that the little guys can determine the policy direction of the country.
I voted mostly for my local elections. Those are sometimes determined by a dozen votes and can have a huge impact on day to day life.
Iowa wasn’t considered a swing state till the Selzer Poll. Thank you for helping to build consensus!
People around the world already live in terror of what USA government may do to them
Exactly. OP is most privileged take, most useless “allies”.
Of the Dems win and they don’t put a boot on the neck of this fascist movement it will take over eventually.
Us on the left need to stop depending on a government whose military is overwhelmingly in support of Trump. We already know nearly all police are the same fascists (not to mention uvalde)
Arm yourself and train your family. Be silently ready for anything, don’t make yourself a target
Top brass seem to swing the other way though. These are generations that tangled with Russia and china for decades now. They see much more behind the curtain than others do.
This ^
If the US military was overwhelmingly in support of Trump Jan 6 would have gone completely differently.
But that would require them to reign in the very same companies that sponsor them. One can hope, but it seems unlikely.
It’s a cult of personality. Jack Smith and the Judiciary just needs to step on the gas as soon as the election is called for Harris, get him gone. It’ll be interesting to see where the GOP goes from there, but MAGA will be dead. Would anyone else be happy with your normal everyday NeoCons running the GOP again?
Companies don’t want fascism, they just want tax breaks. Civil war and dictatorships are bad for business.
Fascism is very good for businesses. They squash dissent like unions and the publics voice. Then only the billionaire class will have a voice.
Billionaires in China have been disappeared before. There’s only the head of state that matters in fascism.
Only the chosen few businesses, and entirely at the whims of the dictator. Your CEO pisses off the leader, your business goes bye bye.
Tell that to Volkswagen, BMW, Messerschmitt, Audi, Deutsche Bank… And all these guys: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_companies_involved_in_the_Holocaust
Fascists weren’t bad for companies like VW, BMW, and Hugo Boss.
Which fascist movement? american or israel?
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We might be living the final moments of not being terrified what the US President is going to do
Come on dude… I live with that since I can understand the world, US can introduce democracy to my country in any moment doesn’t matter who is the fucking president.
Good! It’s a shame you were asleep the last four years!
This isn’t a shower thought. This is propaganda.
Chilling and saying hi to your neighbour is propaganda??
No, the title is. Pure fearmongering.
Explain like I’m five.
Man say thing to make you scared for no reason.
Trump and team don’t need to win the election. They just need to make it tainted with enough irregularities that it forms the basis for the entire thing to be called into question. Even if that evidence is created by them. And this time they’re more prepared for that outcome. They’ve had years to work on his scenario.
The court cases and investigations will go on for years.
Doesn’t need to win a vote at all.
The major difference is that he’s not president this time, Biden is. Republicans only control the House, and that control is narrow. He will try, but he has very few people in government who support him this time.
They already won culturally, as they managed to shift the political culture closer towards theirs. They also managed to set issues that are “theirs”. We see the same shit in Europe, were supposedly progressive parties are implementing the wildest dreams of racist anti-immigration, anti-refugee, anti-science and authoritarian surveillance state policies that the fascists dreamed off. All in the name of “stopping” them, while neglecting actually relevant issues like social services and infrastructure investments. Rinse and repeat and by the time the fascists take over all they have to do is remove the remaining formalities of division of power and democracy.
That’s true… They just need enough to start a civil war (and the entire point by Trump, and the rest of his cronies is to stay out of prison).
And all he needs to do, is start a coup, but not be 100% upfront this time. And he’s been sowing those seeds… He also needs to take over the justice system and the voting system (and he’s been trying to do that too). The idea, like dealing drugs or the mafia, is to try to put measures in place so that other people get blamed
Frankly that is BS
Anyway what happens if he wins fair in square? Would there be a group of people who refused to accept it? Maybe even a violent mob on the capital?
I think both sides need to chill. I’ve seen so many people questioning the polls even though there is little evidence to back it up. We don’t need mobs from either side causing chaos. I think a lot of uncertainty is coming from US adversaries who want to destabilize the US. It is scary how well it is working.
Also calling the election into question isn’t a problem by itself. If they want to do a recount that is perfectly fine by me. I think it is way more important to have accurate results. Follow the law and official policies. If doing a recount means settling a dispute then go for it.
I like your optimism but I think he was just the test run.
Like. Did people forget how insane everyday was when he was President? Like you never knew what was gonna happen he was always wanting the attention.
Yes.
I’m just going to keep riding this horse until it fucking dies but the very first thing he did was take everything Obama did during his presidency and throw it out the window, including the pandemic playbook.
That playbook would have given us step by step instructions and reactions to deal with any type of suddenly erupting national pandemic like Ebola or coronavirus.
And because of this, which was by all measures a racially motivated attack on Obama, more than 1 million Americans died in a badly managed pandemic.
Trump’s racism killed a million Americans.
It undoubtedly exacerbated the problem for the entire world and his total kill count is likely much more than that.
How can you let somebody who genocided millions of people through racism sit in the oval office?
It’s a cult. They have people denying COVID ever existed. Heartily rejecting vaccines.
There’s just too much to list but it only ever makes sense if you take whatever he’s doing as right and readjust everyone around him to work does it ever make sense.
The fact that this election is even close is absolutely insane to me.
Se simply by popular vote because people are supporting that shit, knowingly or unknowingly
It’s crazy that the vote is apparently close. Really goes to show how many “average” americans have utterly lost any connection to actual reality and have guzzled enough of the kool-aid to believe the weird whacky world of wonders the religious fascists constantly conjure up.
I wonder though, is this ultimately a failure not of the education and internal offices, decades ago? We let schools let people down, leading to them becoming undereducated terrible parents who let their kids down and made them vulnerable to be exploited by republicans and churches and crypto grifters. :(
Racism and misogyny. That is all it is.
Large part of the country was built on that foundation. Shocking how proud of it they are.
And propaganda. LOTS of propaganda.
That’s not all, probably not even the main one. It’s a major cost of living crisis and impoverishment of average people while companies and the richest get richer. Neither the Ds nor the Rs want to do anything against it, they get their money from there.
The people kinda understand this. But they’re not intelligent enough to distinguish “actually changing the system” with “just saying they’re gonna change the system”, like Trump does. Trump is always talking about uprooting the deep state and bringing an “average person”(white middle/lower class) perspective to politics, and people just gobble it up and believe it because he’s kinda good at talking with conviction.
Of course the misogyny and racism is part of it and an extra, but it’s not the main reason at all. For some people it is, of course.
That’s a really black and white way to look at it. These are complex issues. Any attempt to find a simple explanation to them is by definition going to be oversimplifying it massively.
Dont take polls so seriously. Even pollsters know that they have no idea how accurate they might be.
exactly what i was thinking about. it was such a tense and shameful period.
I woke up every day worried that we’d nuked Spain overnight.
Just as insane as it is today if you ask me
Hahahahhahahaha you think Trump is the last guy to feel threatened by? The dude was just the starter. There’s a whole movement now with tons of corrupt politicians who will try to get a shot at the presidency. I’m thinking about the Florida governor for example.
USA is a country with a lot of inequality, if not rising inequality, so a fertile breeding ground for populists. And it has an ancient voting system that always gives a two party system so perfect for this kind of polarisation. The system with campaign contributions will also make sure nothing changes about inequality and is making things worse. Yeah, it’ll happen again.
The voting system is so insane. I mean sure, back in the 18th century it made sense due to the travel required, but the fact that americans still use a voting system from that time says it all really…
https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Madison/01-10-02-0065
There was one difficulty however of a serious nature attending an immediate choice by the people. The right of suffrage was much more diffusive in the Northern than the Southern States; and the latter could have no influence in the election on the score of the Negroes. The substitution of electors obviated this difficulty and seemed on the whole to be liable to fewest objections.
Nothing to do with travel, it was just the only way to launder slave votes
You’re right in concept but DeSantis utterly fizzled nationally. Even in Florida he’s aging like last week’s fish.
Only because he fucked up and went after the Mouse lol
Mouse will fuck you up
Trump is still around though. I bet FL man takes a big step up in popularity once that’s no longer true.
Jeb Bush?
“Please clap”
I think you mean Jeb!
Please clap.
You mean Dicksantis?
Yeah that douche.
