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If you ever need to have a dialogue on any subject and want a reasonable partner, don’t worry - you can just have that morning coffee and you’ll eventually shit out better choices than the entirety of ml, hexbear, lemmygrad and a bunch of other cuntwaffles combined.
im pretty sure some of the intentionally satirically idiotic arguments i’ve had have simply had a better construction to them than what these instances tend to produce lol
Look, NATO is bad, that’s why it’s absolutely necessary for anti-imperialism purposes that Russia invades its neighbors before they can get into NATO!
I am still amazed at the 12 dimensional chess thought process of invading a country that didn’t join NATO to discourage joining NATO. All that socialized vodka in the maternity ward must be getting out of hand.
Which works about as good as rhe war on terror
“Bro just one more invasion bro I swear this time it’ll really solve
terrorismWestern Imperialism™ for good!”Problem is, Russia is technically in the west.
Something something, Eurasian realignment BRICS Imperial Core Global South Anti-Colonial Axis of Resistance.
I think I’m ready to start my career as a professional tankie!
This is logic amped up to 11 right here, folks.
i was recently banned from like 5 different ML communities, no clue why, hi ML admin or mod if you could tell me why that would be cool.
It was probably something stupid i did, i never read rules. (in my defense, they’re always the same and i’m never going to follow them lmao) But regardless, silent bans are weird.
silent bans, aka “shadow bans”, are deeply assholeish. But being an asshole is normal now. Which is messed up.
modmin have the ability to shadow ban you?
gotta love the internet now :)
Many of us are little totalitarian dictators just looking for a kingdom to rule. Like 10% of the population or something. Buncha psycho clowns.
we all do it from time to time. Though to be fair, my ban reason would be something stupid like “you smell funny” so
Speak for yourself
i believe that is what i am currently doing, but who knows, maybe free will isn’t real.
All bans are silent if you never read your inbox 😉
i have combed through my inbox, there is nothing
i would’ve seen it, either im stupid and can’t find it because i don’t know how to use this platform (possibility)
or i never got it, for whatever reason.
I don’t think Lemmy currently has notifications for moderation actions, but there are plans to add them: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/4572
But this issue depends on other issues
https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/2441
https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/2444ah, that would explain it.
Guess i’ll have to hope i get unbanned and then banned again in a few years to find out why lol.
Well the reasons they provide im the modlog are absolutely ridiculous, it’s mostly something like “Rule 1”, “Rule 2” or something else absolutely stupid.
yeah that sounds about right. The mod logs aren’t ever public are they? That would be nice, but i suppose it would probably fuck up moderation.
They are public, you can find the link to the modlog of an entire instance at the bottom of the page, or just by going to https://[your instance]/modlog
For an individual community, you can find the modlog in the sidebar:
Don’t worry, there’s no reason to read the ML rules since they don’t follow them anyway. 90% of bans there have nothing whatsoever to do with the rules.
However, I will say it’s generally good practice to read the rules in other places.
based, generally i’ll read rules if i’m ever posting actual posts, but since i comment 99% of the time, it really doesn’t matter IMO.
You’ve provided totally inadequate context while seeking shallow bandwagon validation from idiots. It’s not logical. And, you’ve made a bad faith request. Yet, logic and good faith discussion are prerequisites to the study of philosophy.
The core prerequisite for participation in communist discussion is a comprehensive understanding of Capital. If one demonstrates they didn’t do the reading then they’ll be told to shut the fuck up so as to not interfere with classroom discussion.
I’ve answered your bad faith request. It’s more than you deserve. You should be thankful. But, you’re likely angry. No good deed goes unpunished. I’ll not even see your response.
You’ve provided totally inadequate context while seeking shallow bandwagon validation from idiots. It’s not logical. And, you’ve made a bad faith request. Yet, logic and good faith discussion are prerequisites to the study of philosophy.
i have no more context than anyone else here lmao.
The core prerequisite for participation in communist discussion is a comprehensive understanding of Capital. If one demonstrates they didn’t do the reading then they’ll be told to shut the fuck up so as to not interfere with classroom discussion.
is ml a commie instance? Am i just stupid and didn’t notice this? I just thought it was the other main lemmy instance. It just happened to have a lot of tankies by chance.
you’re also not an ML instance user, so i’m not sure how you’re answering this lmao.
I’ll not even see your response.
ok
Honestly, can’t we defederate from that shithole. I don’t see why we need to get a post every other day just to ruin everyone’s day
This is how it’s supposed to work on the Fediverse. If you don’t like an instance, you defederate. I take no position on people at lemmy.ml, but unless people are rage addicts the best thing to do is ignore instances you find objectionable.
Well at least people got educated on left side extremism. I think it puts things in the broader perspective and maybe even someone decided to research these topics some more.
It makes you wonder about communism as a whole. Does it always lead to totalitarianism? Etc
It’s healthy to see all the nut jobs from time to time and reflect on your own steps.
If your views align with the nut jobs for example that makes you wonder hmm something is wrong.Tankies are totalitarian right winners cosplaying as left wingers. Communism hasn’t been in power in Russia since Gorbachev. It’s been nationalists since then. They swung. They swung hard. They kept the totalitarianism and got rid of the leftness. I’d have made largely the opposite choice.
And as many argue, USSR was state capitalism.
Lenin was actually capitalist libertarian, they won’t tell you that in the history books written by rotten western imperialists but it’s true. You should read The Communist Manifesto.
Moderators please we have a liberal in the comments, I can’t breatheee
Been working my way through Richard Wolfe stuff first, then I’ll work on the classics. If Wolfe says USSR was state capitalism, then he’s a liberal too.
I’m totally ignorant here, but uh… Isn’t the point of communism to I close state capitalism?
Communism is not Marxism, which afaik really has never been implemented.
lenin was pretty good in terms of communism, stalinist russia was very totalitarian though.
I think you are wrong about the right/left thing. Ever hear about the horseshoe theory of politics?
Russia embraced capitalism after the fall of the USSR then became an oligarchy where a bunch of super rich run the whole thing. Socialism is dead in Russia and has been for a long time. The only thing that didn’t change is that most people are cripplingly poor. Where have you been for the last 40 years?
People whose views align with nutjobs think that everyone else is being dramatic.
“I’ve never even seen a tankie on here before!” - an infinite number of tankie fellow travellers
Although, to be fair, they’ve become much more rare in .world communities over the past few months. It’s nice, having only a few morons to wander in and make apologia for war crimes and totalitarianism.
It makes you wonder about communism as a whole. Does it always lead to totalitarianism? Etc
considering the answer to democracy is literally “well you can vote one in” as we have recently found out in america.
Yeah probably. If even the most rugged institutions are not impervious to this problem, i think it’s fair to safe that no institution is.
It’s healthy to see all the nut jobs from time to time and reflect on your own steps. If your views align with the nut jobs for example that makes you wonder hmm something is wrong.
my rule of thumb for politics is that if you have an opinion it and you are wrong and you should stop holding that opinion. Politics is vastly too complicated for even a lifelong PHD thesis to be capable of understanding. Let alone some dude who gets all his news from idiots yelling at a camera online.
The best thing we can do is to prevent ourselves from getting to extreme before it starts.
Can’t, it drives engagement.
dont know why lemm.ee the instance am on is federated with hexbears
I’d be glad if NATO didn’t exist.
It would mean countries wouldn’t feel threatened by their neighbors, and no invasions would happen.
But until that is the case, NATO is necessary.
I’d like your comment more if it said: “I’d be glad if NATO didn’t have to exist”
And I’d like your comment more if it said “Ricky is the bestest person on all of the world” but we can’t all have what we want.
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I would much prefer every country in the planet being in NATO.
Any country attacks any other country? Literally the whole world goes to defend it. So no invasions are possible.
It wouldn’t work though. Wouldn’t take much time for alliances to form that agree to not follow NATO’S rules.
Nato already does not enforce their mission against the US and US backed vassel states
Nato already does not enforce their mission against the US and US backed vassel states
When did the US invade a member of NATO, again?
Sorry, their presumed mission of ensuring peace in Europe through collective defense.
It’s built and structured around Russia being the main antagonist but it’s mostly been the US who’s activities have been destabilizing the security of Europe.
But you’re right, the explicit mission is to protect their members and noone else, so I guess everything is working as intended
It’s built and structured around Russia being the main antagonist but it’s mostly been the US who’s activities have been destabilizing the security of Europe.
lol
Tell me more about how America’s aggression turned the Baltic Sea into a NATO lake.
Fascists like you just can’t help yourselves when it comes to Russia, can you?
I have no problem acknowledging Russia’s aggression and imperialist activities, but NATO fanboys pretend as if NATO members are the ‘good guys’ and cannot themselves be seen as the instigators of European conflict.
NATO ends up categorizing conflict in Europe into two sides and ignores all conflict originating on the member side. An alliance that includes all members would at least in-theory be more equitable, but we already know that even a global supergovernment can selectively enforce their mission and ignore offenses by particular members.
but NATO fanboys pretend as if NATO members are the ‘good guys’ and cannot themselves be seen as the instigators of European conflict.
Hey, want to tell me what the European conflict going on right now is and who instigated it?
Maybe you could also do the last major European conflict too, just for fun?
“NATO is sabotaging European security” is such a braindead talking point that requires not just ignorance, but active denial of reality. It’s unsurprising that fascist shitheads find it so very appealing to parrot.
Nah, I want war. I want the rest of the world to go to war with the US. They’ve got a Nazi problem. We beat the Nazis in 1945 and we might need to beat them again in 2045.
Lmfao who’s the warmonger now?
My brother in freedom, we first need to make sure the US and all of our big shiny weapons are on the side against the Nazis. I think we have a good shot at it, but it’s not a guarantee.
My brother in freedom, we first need to make sure the US and all of our big shiny weapons are on the side against the Nazis. I think we have a good shot at it, but it’s not a guarantee.
Every species has weapons embedded into its body, some organisms are specialized members of the species, such as queens and babies, but all species spend a portion of their precious energy budget building weapons.
Given how ruthlessly evolution prunes out anything that doesn’t give an advantage, I think this gives significant information about the nature of existence.
Hostility appears to be as universal as entropy, and just as manageable.
Fun fact. Being the most complex object in the known universe. The human brain is the lowest entropy place we know…
The most complex object in the universe … according to the brain.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bologna_massacre#False_leads
NATO isn’t there to defend you, it’s there to serve the interests of a bunch of rulers and elites
Believe it or not, both things can be true
Stuff can be two things!
Did you even read any of the link posted?
“Only your side can be evil and not mine!”
That might be hard to grasp but sometimes the interests or rulers and elites do align to some degree with the average person in their country. Most rich and powerful people have a lot of investments that are worth significantly less when unpredictable things such as invasions happen that disrupt trade.
Humanity is literally on the verge of extinction due to global warming and you still believe rulers gives a single shit to anything that isn’t money or power? War is a business.
Extinction would kind of interfere with the whole power and money thing.
Go explain that to the biggest 10 companies in the world. I doubt you have enough money to sit at their table. Stop giving a fuck about everything around you and focus on money and wealth alone and perhaps you will get a chance to talk with their executives.
I was just pointing out a flaw in your reasoning. There are no simple answers to complex questions.
I think it’s simple to see how greedy people try to take as much as they can without thinking of the consequences. Money and power are a drug
I mean the rulers and elites live in the same countries as many of us do and they sure as shit don’t want war where they live. It might not be here to defend us, but it’s here to defend the countries we live in.
War is a business and a tool to get more power. Rulers and elites cares about money and wealth they don’t give a fuck about the planet or peasants. Just look around yourself
That’s true. But then, if you’re a ruler, the best war is one that your own country isn’t fighting, but you can profit off of. Which is why they’re still incentivized to keep peace in their own countries, but not so much half a planet away.
That’s true. But then, if you’re a ruler, the best war is one that your own country isn’t fighting
If you are a ruler you probably don’t give a fuck about anything that isn’t money and power.
What good is money and power when you have to live in a bunker?
Idk ask them. Billionares or authoritarian rulers are basically addicts who don’t make rational choices. Their “bunker” is probably a palace with servants
I can’t hear you with that imperialist cock brushing against your tonsils.
lol before I realized what ml meant I made a comment that I thought that communism had never happened yet on earth but that it could one day. You wouldn’t believe the rage and attack from dozens of people who were inconsolable.
They also got mad when I said that there are only a few actual leftists in government in the US. Turns out that everyone is one, dontchano
inconsolable
i like the idea of using inconsolable to refer to grown ass adults. Pure comedic value.
Cheers!
“Read theory and you would know what I’m talking about.”
That is a common thought terminating response to any critique of communism. That being said, I learned to flip the table. Tankies talk about theory, so mention empirical and practical results. They tend to either shut down or ban you.
Your first sentence is not wrong; as I understand Marx’s writing. Essentially it is not possible to go from agrarianism straight to communism without first building an industrial society. That’s how Russia / USSR, China etc don’t “technically” count.
That’s how Russia / USSR, China etc don’t “technically” count.
The Lenin government did experiment with a direct transition to full communism, but found - as Marx predicted - that they didn’t enjoy the industrial surplus needed for a post scarcity society. So he rolled back to the New Economic Plan, which Stalin inherited. Stalin went full tilt on industrialization, which upset a lot of agricultural workers and ended with him putting down a revolt in his native Georgia and tendering his resignation as a result.
The party wouldn’t accept the resignation, so Stalin had to come back and win WW2 as a result. Russia avoided the fate of many of the Eastern Bloc states thanks to that rapid industrialization.
After the war standards of living surged, in large part thanks to the Communist model. The kind of communal lifestyle possible under pre-WW conditions wasn’t attractive anymore, so Russians kept industrializing over the next 40 years. And when they couldn’t match the US + Japan speed of development, they fell over in the attempt.
But to say they weren’t “doing Communism”… The quality of life in the Eastern Block improved remarkably quick and access to resources was broad based and egalitarian. The economy was centralized and planned. The proletariat dictated the political agenda.
Certainly, at the time, American economists could tell the difference between the US and Soviet systems, even if they doggedly insisted central banks making private loans was freedom while central committees allocating jobs and resources was tyranny.
It’s only after the USSR collapsed that we got an earful about “Not Real Communism”.
Thanks. I have no reason to doubt any of that. Just to clarify that by “technically” I meant that, as far as I could see, they were not necessarily dialectically-created(?) as per Karl (&Fred’s) original theories. It was more a view about the processes they used rather the outcomes they achieved.
they were not necessarily dialectically-created(?) as per Karl (&Fred’s) original theories
That’s where you can argue that Lenin and Marx ultimately diverged. Trotsky was more of a Marxist hardliner, who insisted Russia simply wasn’t ready for a Soviet state. Stalin felt differently and went so far as to have a bunch of his detractors exiled/killed to prove his point.
The Maoist Revolution in China took a substantially more Trotskyist approach, slow rolling reforms at a speed the majority of the public was willing to accept. Deng proved to be more long termist than Krushchev in his planning.
And I guess history has proven which method was wiser.
Your first sentence is not wrong; as I understand Marx’s writing. Essentially it is not possible to go from agrarianism straight to communism without first building an industrial society. That’s how Russia / USSR, China etc don’t “technically” count.
Don’t worry, Lenin et co said you could do it if you believed extra super hard and gave all the power to a small clique of intellectuals. Lenin, like Jesus and the Gospels, takes precedence over prior teachings.
That’s a good analogy. The mental gymnastics needed to be Marxist-Leninist is akin to believing both the old and new testaments are - essentially - about the same guy. I’m particularly thinking about New Economic Policy existing in a communist state. Wild.
[Overthrows the SRs for daring to say capitalism must come first to industrialize Russia]
[Implements capitalism to industrialize Russia]
It’s like how the Saudi activists who called for women to be allowed to drive remained in prison after it was legalised; it’s not about the policy itself, it’s about defying the ruler.
For a minute I thought SRs was a speech-to-text mistake for “Tsars” and was super confused - but then it all made sense. Been a long time since I’ve talked about this stuff.
It’s not a STT mistake of the word Tsar? What is it?
Socialist Revolutionary Party. Two capital letters and one lower case is how it’s written. Go figure. They were in the mix of Russian politics in that era.
I’m referring more to the fact that Marx envisioned the populace rising up. What really rose in places like Russia and China was a group of self appointed elites who were really just reactionaries.
Tankies get mad because they believe that their utopia already exists and everyone else is an idiot for not ascribing to the same.
They think their utopia already exists
Yet they refuse to go live there
Good observation!
Marx thought that the revolution would need leaders, and so the self-appointed elites aren’t totally out of keeping. It’s just that they were then supposed to step down and let the people govern themselves.
That, again, is another reason why they are not really communist. “Workers of the world unite”
Exactly. My point at that time was to say that it can happen but had not yet.
From my (very limited) understanding of Marx and Engels I suggest your point is correct. I don’t understand how a full-fat, red flag waving comrade could come to any other conclusion… but then I have no dog in this fight and no emotional need to be correct.
sadly there are many stalinists and moaists. the Russian revolution ended when stallin took power.
Whilst it’s impossible to argue with the results of Moustachioed Jo and the Chairman the (human) cost of that process seems a bit… heavy, to my mind. Never understood their fanboys as a result.
I think that’s why you and I aren’t tankies, militant vegans, hard evangelicals, etc. It’s not important enough to worry about.
What really rose in places like Russia and China was a group of self appointed elites who were really just reactionaries.
Are you suggesting the Red Guard didn’t exist and the Long March didn’t happen?
self appointed
What does that mean?
I’ll start over:
Me: self appointed elites did this
You: oh so you’re saying that none of it happened?
It’s a non sequitur, it has nothing to do with the conversation.
Me: self appointed elites did this
Again, you really need to go back and read the history of the Chinese Revolution of you believe this. I might - at a bare minimum - crack open a copy of Fanshen or Life and Death in Shanghai. The idea that the Chinese Civil War and Cultural Revolution were waged by “elites” in any conceivable sense is flatly wrong. It is ahistorical to the point of being the opposite of truth. Like insisting George Washington was a First Nations native person or asserting the French Revolution was orchestrated by the Hapsburgs.
At its ugliest, Chinese revolutionaries were arresting, beating, and executing anyone who might vaguely be defined as “elite”. You were having people fight over whether parents should be executed for being landlords over their children. The opening scene of the Netflix “3 Body Problem” wasn’t all that far from the truth - college professors were, in fact, getting hauled out in front of student committees for adhering to the texts of English and German physicists. The very idea of “elitism” was what was on trial during the hottest years of the revolution.
It’s a non sequitur
You don’t know your history. You’re saying things that are flatly, broadly, and totally incoherent.
…what does the ml stand for?
Marxism Leninism
They are the original Lemmy devs which is why I joined there. Horrible mistake, reactionary idiots who project their insecurity on others while thinking that they are the only ones who figured out the secret sauce. Pretty much exactly sovereign citizen level quackery.
look up the word “tankies” to get an idea
Ah, I see
To be fair, how do westerners not treat capitalism and democracy with exactly the same weight? I think both sides would have good reason to argue that neither side has figured out the secret sauce as you say.
Not a huge stretch to think both the US and Russia treat their citizens poorly, and neither is a model for the rest of the world.
Because while both are shit, under capitalism I can at least say it’s shit without fear of incarceration or reeducation.
Russia is also capitalist, and I think you meant to say “democracy” instead of “capitalism” there since authoritarian capitalism is definitely a thing (see Russia and China).
Unless you’re a whistleblower
What has capitalism got to do with freedom of speech?
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I think the pedantry is warranted. A lot of people like to conflate capitalism and democracy.
What does Stalin have to do with freedom of speech, because tankies support authocrats and dictators worldwide, but especially are fans of Stalin.
What you talking about bossman?
Area code for Mali… and I assume shorthand for Marxist Leninist.
I see, thanks
Sure I’m a NATO apologist: I’m sorry NATO is necessary because Russia is such an antagonistic fuckwad.
Actual quote from Vladimir Putin:
Dear NATO, we regret being imperialist bastards. We regret coming to Ukraine. And we most definitely regret that the VMSU just blew up our raggedy-ass fleet!
Russia had a choice: play by the west’s rules, or play second fiddle to China. They chose the latter unfortunately for them and for us.
That’s just what happens when you go from tsarist serfdom state to a communist peasant regime to a “democractic” dictatorship while constantly greasing the gears with vodka and corruption.
Hey at least the alcoholism has gotten a little bit better, right?
Hey, you’d think so, right?
I mean, even if we trust the numbers coming out of a propaganda-riddled shithole whose only saving grace at this point would be a couple hundred strategically placed nukes (which - to be clear - I don’t. Their entire government+military is probably downing shots just to get through morning briefings). Even trusting their sources, they’re still back on the potato wild ride again. At this point I can only commend the nation for slowly killing itself, and blame them for not choosing a speedier route.
The world was deeply afraid of Marxism. When Russia experienced a workers-led revolution in 1917, Western powers were terrified of the spread of Marxist ideas and the potential threat they posed to the capitalist world order. In response, several Western states, along with their client states, sent their armies into Russia, aiming to overthrow the newly established worker-run government under the Bolsheviks. We attacked first, in an effort to suppress a system we feared.
This antagonism continued and evolved over the decades, culminating in the Cold War, where tensions between the Soviet Union and the West defined global politics. The Cuban Missile Crisis stands out as a key moment in this conflict. In fact, it was the United States that, in violation of international norms and against the Geneva Convention, installed nuclear launch sites along Russia’s borders in Turkey, heightening the threat and contributing to the Soviet response of placing missiles in Cuba.
Historically, it’s clear that we have been antagonistic towards Russia, driven by a fear of communism and a desire to maintain Western dominance. This pattern of confrontation has had long-lasting effects on the geopolitical landscape, contributing to the strained relations that persist today.
Dont take my word for this stuff, you can easily find information online, in text books.
Not to defend Western European imperialism in Russia because fuck that but no one did more to destroy the newly established worker-run government than the Bolsheviks. I’m assuming you’re a ML–unfortunately they don’t allow factual discussions of history, so you’ll need to read some history outside of the thought bubble to learn the truth.
Trotskyist, so all up for discussion and challenging my understanding. Point me in the direction.
A lot of it is from many articles and podcasts I’ve read but here’s a decent if long overview. https://blackrosefed.org/workers-power-and-the-russian-revolution/
If you prefer an audio format, I recommend this video (the visuals are optional so I usually listen in the background). https://youtu.be/uwU3STgBknQ
The whole series is worth a listen but would be a big time commitment.
Gentle reminder that blocking the entire Lemmy.ml instance has made this place a lot less … tankie
Can you do that yet without your instance just entirely defederating?
Yes. Go to: settings > blocks > scroll down
At the end of the page, below your blocked users and communities, there is a list of instances, which you blocked. You can add instances there aswell.
Please be aware that user-level instance blocking is not the same as instance-level defederation. User-level instance blocking is equivalent to blocking all the communities from that instance. AFAIK you’ll still see posts and comments from the blocked instance in other communities. More problematically, the blocked instance still influences your feed via its votes.
Thank you for this
No. User-level instance blocking is not the same as instance-level defederation. User-level instance blocking is equivalent to blocking all the communities from that instance. AFAIK you’ll still see posts and comments from the blocked instance in other communities. More problematically, the blocked instance still influences your feed via its votes.
Ah yes, that paragon of leftist virtue…
…*checks notes*…
Muammar Gaddafi?
And they wonder why they don’t get taken seriously.
The point is not that Gaddafi was a leftist, but that NATO is an evil imperialistic offensive organisation that overthrows governments
Of course Libya was never a NATO mission, was done by two countries (I include the UK as part of the USA at this point) that certainly could have coordinated even if NATO did not exist. France has always been the most NATO sceptical country in the union as well.
Oh and let’s not forget that blaming NATO allows them to forget the real reason France got involved there. But why would they want to distract people away from Sarkozy and his neoimperialism? Let me check what’s he got to say about Ukraine… Yup, checks out
Yeah my money is on the 60.000.000€ (IIRC) Sarko illegally got for his electoral campaign from Gadaffi (donations and such are very regulated in France and that was clearly very illegal), and then Gadaffi started to get vocal about it… … and then suddenly he got caught bu French forces and oupsie daisy boom.
Nothing to do with NATO.
So, I blocked the instance about a week ago, I don’t feel like I’m missing anything.
I only wonder how the people/government of Mali feel about them using their country’s top-level domain for… Whatever it is they’re using it for.
I dunno enough about Mali to really say, but I’m pretty sure that Lemmy.ml has nothing to do with that country… For them the ML means… Something else entirely.
Reminds me of the story of people’s .mil emails going to the .ml top level domain and the Malian government asking the US to fix their shit
Somehow that doesn’t surprise me in the least.
Well, yeah. Kinda like how most .tv domains don’t really have anything to do with Tuvalu, or .io with the British Indian Ocean Territory, etc.
youtu.be is not a Belgian website.
Yep. It happens a lot. Most of the time it’s benign, fairly neutral websites.
As the other commenter mentioned, youtu.be is another example.
I don’t have a problem with people using TLDs for other countries or anything, my curiosity is whether Mali cares that it’s essentially a site glorifying Marxism–Leninism owned and operated by people who don’t live there, and apart from their glorified ideologies sharing an innitialism with the country code, the two don’t necessarily have any overlap…
Just seems like a PR problem if people take to using your country code TLD to spread propaganda that you disagree with, because your country will be regularly mentioned when discussing the site.
I don’t think anyone here will conflate Lemmy.ml with the people, beliefs or properties of the people of Mali, but all it takes is for one extremist tied to that site, to do something horrible, have a spotlight shined on lemmy.ml, and one over-enthusiastic journalist to mention that .ml is the country specific domain for Mali, and all of a sudden, otherwise ignorant common folk are associating acts of terrorism and violence with your country.
The government of Mali and specifically the department that runs the TLD, has the power to revoke their domain registration… I’m just saying.
It stands for Marxism-Lenininism I aasume.
My understanding is that .ml was cheap (maybe free?) and the Marxist-Leninist thing was a happy coincidence/backronym.
Oh I thought it was machine learning all this time
Goddamn it thank you for reminding me why I stay off of Lemmy. 😡
Lemmy is a big place bro… this is lemmy.ml a notorious tankie pit where they glorify various communism regime and excuse their genocides and war crimes.
even one of the mods is a commie
PSA: Not every commie is a tankie
I disagree. I personally don’t see any reason why someone would seriously see communism as legit without shoving there head in the sand. At least the free market doesn’t lead to mass starvation. To be fair it isn’t a black and white thing but communism is a failed system from the 20th century
Geez. The question isn’t whether communism is a good idea. It’s whether every communist is a Russia-supporting tankie. They’re just not. Some recognize Russia’s imperialism for what it is
I was using them interchangably
They love to pick and choose who to enforce their rules against.
Mine’s not even as interesting. Lemmy.ml rule 4: no ads/spamming. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
https://sh.itjust.works/post/8419342
more than just a few instances it would seem
I got banned on a lemmy.ml sub for pointing out a post was misleading, that’s it.
People here complain about reddit mods being power tripping, but my experience on Lemmy has been equal if not worse. Ml and hexbear being obvious examples, but I’ve even gotten 7 or 30 days bans, with no warning, for stupid shit that I’ve seen plenty of other people do, in a news sub and aboringdystopia, obviously because the mod disagreed with my opinion, they were just using some minor violation of the rules to justify banning me.
A lot of folk either have forgotten or never experienced self regulated communities that existed prior to social media.
It is a culture shock to see disagreeable or stupud takes instead of them being removed from their sight and feeds without engagement or even knowledge.
The difference is that the mods in many cases also run the instance. If anything that could be worse for power tripping!
But you can always remove those instances from your Lemmy experience. Not always a great option if there’s only one good community for something (e.g. news), but supposedly people who agree with you do the same and make a new community. Given nothing can last forever and even your own instance can grow terrible with time (as Reddit subs sometimes did), it’s nice to be able to hedge your bets.
Example, nothing of value was lost defederating from hexbear.
Dessalines literally changed how mod log reports work (to not show who took the action or if it was an admin) early on because it was a bad look that he was censoring and banning so many users over very mild perceived slights. The dude is clearly off his rock at this point, ironically showing exactly what Marxist-Leninists do with even a tiny bit of trivial power.
One time I posted a meme on a Blahaj community I moderated where someone named Obvious_Troll@hexbear.net was being transphobic. Ada, the instance owner, private messaged me to say I needed to redact the username or my post would be removed. She said Obvious_Troll is a real, trans Lemmy user and I’m not to attack them. There is no user called Obvious_Troll, I made that username up for the meme. Ada defended a fictional transphobic troll because they were from Hexbear.
Lemmy has a serious admin problem.
I think Ada is afraid of ever hurting a trans person, like by excluding them from their community, even though their job is to moderate users on the trans instance.
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That is a personal attack. I’m for that kind of moderation.
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You can’t tell the difference in alluding to someone being gullible and calling someone a triggered cat puke? One is a comment on your behavior (swallowing marketing) and the other is a direct insult. One might be a personal attack, the other one definitely is. Just be kind.
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Then fuck that asshat and if you think his reply was justified then fuck you too.
Save the hostility for the tankies. Or at least take it somewhere other than here. We’re here to hate red fash.
I mean this is a stupid take but if I were a mod I’d leave it up (for everyone to see).
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yes, that’s a stupid take
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I think I was banned from some communities there but I don’t remember which ones and haven’t missed them. I’m probably better off.
